• CON

    Some jobs have a uniform and they could care less about...

    Uniforms should be mandatory in all of the public schools of America

    Your first argument, where you say that they can express themselves in the school's extra-curricular classes, doesn't fit everybody. Some schools don't have those courses, once again another personal experience, and what about the kids with learning disabilities? Writing to release their feelings may be a challenge. Art class aren't always provided either, especially in elementary when kids are forced into these classes instead of picking them in JH or HS. What if the kids aren't into art or singing? What if it has the exact opposite effect on them? Plus, some kids don't even have the right assets to go to school, the only way you'll keep kids out of gangs is by doing that, attacking the problem by the source and not beating around the bush with school dress code. On the same not, some schools are different with their dress code, some are too strict. Such as this high school named Trinity HS. Their dress code is very loose, but it's still there and they have very high rates of success. The only things that should matter in a school is what's supposed to happen there: education and preparation for college, I mean that very vaguely. Plus, we need something that works for all learners. The American school system is very outdated, considering they teach every child the same way no matter how they learn and they, as in teachers, expect them to follow their lesson plan no matter what. Everyone learns differently. I also doubt that a uniform makes people bond. Some jobs have a uniform and they could care less about their peers. Uniforms we can do without. Another school example is Harwood JH, a school in Bedford that is #3 ranking school in their county, and guess what, there's no uniform! The dress code is strict as it reads from the website, but no uniform. You don't get logic or intelligence from a uniform, it comes from your brain, The latest fashions is also something a majority of kids like, some stores actually go with the latest fashion so it isn't hard to walk into Walmart or the mall and buy the clothes.

  • CON

    Schools with uniforms obtain better educational results....

    There is no good evidence that links school uniform to improved results.

    Schools with uniforms obtain better educational results. This is because there is better discipline and so the school setting makes learning easier. Without the distraction of checking out what all the other students are wearing (or how much flesh they are showing), students find it easier to concentrate and do better in tests.

    • https://debatewise.org/3367-school-uniforms-should-be-mandatory/
  • PRO

    Rather than having school uniform, why not have a dress...

    Dress Codes instead of school uniform

    Rather than having school uniform, why not have a dress code instead? This has all the benefits of uniform without the many disadvantages. While This has all the benefits of uniform without the many disadvantages. While uniforms force all children to wear the same clothes, dress codes give students a lot of choice what to wear. Only a few unsuitable things are banned - for example, gang colors, very short skirts, crop tops, bare shoulders, etc

  • CON

    Uniforms should not be because use lose your freedom of...

    why should be uniforms needed in schools

    Uniforms should not be because use lose your freedom of choice.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/why-should-be-uniforms-needed-in-schools/1/
  • CON

    How does that have anything to do with uniforms and your...

    why should be uniforms needed in schools

    How does that have anything to do with uniforms and your confusing me.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/why-should-be-uniforms-needed-in-schools/1/
  • PRO

    Wearing a school uniform is not good preparation for...

    Wearing a school uniform is not good preparation for working.

    Wearing a school uniform is not good preparation for working. Only a few jobs require uniforms, and many of these are low-paid service jobs – not what we want our young people to aim for. After all, their main role-models at school – the teachers – don’t have to wear a uniform. Well-paid jobs used to require a suit, but this has been changing in recent years and smart-casual clothes are much more common now. Even if you have to wear a suit, you still have a huge choice of styles, colour and accessories with which to express your personality. This isn’t true of school uniform.

    • https://debatewise.org/3367-school-uniforms-should-be-mandatory/
  • CON

    A survey on whether students would rather uniforms or not...

    Every school must have a uniform

    Thank you for this argument, which I hope that you are enjoying it as I am. I applaud your well thought out argument, but to respond firstly, to your initial point that students should focus on their education rather than their clothes. This is true, but students aren't going to be any more productive in the morning than thinking of what the wear in front of the wardrobe. Like I said again, we can't expect students to easily adapt to adult life where they will need to pick their own attire, as well as make many other decisions, when months before, they had to have many things picked out for them. A survey on whether students would rather uniforms or not by Kids USA (Scholastic) has also resulted in most students choosing no. http://teacher.scholastic.com... I simply can't agree with my opponents point about school uniforms being more "cost-effective" than regular apparel, as whether or not there is a school uniform, students will always have their everyday clothes, and many students would prefer them, in a matter of whether they feel more comfortable or more like themselves. A survey on whether students would rather uniforms or not by Kids USA (Scholastic) has also resulted in most students choosing no. http://teacher.scholastic.com... I simply can't agree with my opponents point about school uniforms being more "cost-effective" than regular apparel, as whether or not there is a school uniform, students will always have their everyday clothes, and many students would prefer them, in a matter of whether they feel more comfortable or more like themselves. School uniform is just adding more items of clothing to a parent's shopping list and financial burden. Encouraging a student to take on the responsibility of choosing his/her own clothes should be a good thing, to encourage and teach organization, so that clothes are set out for the next day for example, so that students may still be punctual and reach school on time. I return the debate to my opponent.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Every-school-must-have-a-uniform/1/
  • CON

    Imagine what would happen if school uniforms were banned,...

    School uniform should be banned

    Hello, this is my first debate. I wish good luck to my opponents. Commenters please advice me in the comments section and thank you! So let's get started. Point 1: School uniform can be a indication of the student's pride and loyalty of the school. By wearing school uniform, students will feel proud of their school. However, this only applies if the school is reputable as if the school is not reputable, the school uniform would indicate that the student is not a good student due to his school. Point 2: School uniforms help teachers and staff to identify students. This is especially useful during school trips. Imagine what would happen if school uniforms were banned, how would the teachers identify their students during mishaps and accidents? Besides, it is also easier for a teacher to do a head count of the students as most of the students would be wearing the same type of clothes. Compared to students wearing different colored clothes with different designs , students wearing the school uniform would be certainly more easily recognized. Point 3: Wearing a school uniform will change a student's mindset and attitude towards their study. Psychologist have proven that wearing the school uniform will cause a student to be more serious compared to wearing home clothes. Thus, wearing school uniform would enable a student to focus more easily during lesson. Point 4: School uniform can improve the image of a school. As the saying goes, ' The clothes makes the man' By wearing a smart standardized uniform, a student will look like a studious scholar, by wearing a shirt with a punk-like design, the student will look like a hooligan, while wearing a shirt with a cartoon design would make the student look childish and immature. The clothes of what we wear reflects who we are,even if some do not notice. For example, if we wear a tank top and yellow pants with pink polka dots to a job interview, you would be perceived as a foolish person with a can't be bothered attitude. Thus, if a group of students wears a class uniform, the school would be seen as organized and would of course make a better impression than a school with students wearing clothes of different designs. Point 5: School uniform can reduce the bullying of many students. Bullying has been a common issue in schools due to many factors. One of the factor is the clothing. Wearing inappropriate or abusive clothes can lead to a disruption in class, and also, in more serious cases, a fight. For example, if a student wore a shirt to school with the words 'Chinese Suck', the Chinese of the school would feel offended and will most probably find a way to have revenge. Some of them might even perhaps commit self harm or try to engage in a fight with the student wearing the repulsive shirt. Likewise, if outsiders see a student wearing an abusive shirt, and identify the student, it would bring a bad image to the school. Therefore, cases of bullying can be reduced if students wear the same uniform. Point 6: Due to poverty, the clothes of a poor pupil might be torn, worn or dirty. This may lead to the discrimination of other students. If all students wore the same uniform, less people would discriminate students due to their clothes as their first impression on others would be based more on the mindset , personality and attitude of the person rather than his clothes. In conclusion, the uniform may have disadvantages, however, the benefits of a uniform outweighs the negative effects of a uniform, therefore, the uniform should not be banned.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniform-should-be-banned/2/
  • PRO

    After all, another meaning of the word "uniform" means...

    Students should be required to wear school uniform.

    Thank you very much, Westernguy2. Rebuttal to your 1st counter argument, on the freedom and expression: Yes, having expression will not create a disruptive environment, but however, but with uniforms there will be a better environment. There is no harm for freedom of expression, but there is benefits for uniforms. After all, another meaning of the word "uniform" means organized. So while the neg argues that there will be no harm, I argue that there will be no harm AND benefits. Yes, students have the right of expression, but again, uniforms are already used by much of the private schools in our country. If students have to have freedom of expression, then why don't we ban uniforms in those schools? Obviously this does not violate the 1st amendment as much schools already use uniforms, so his counterargument is void, and my 1st contention still stands true. Rebuttal to your 2nd counterargument, on the popularity argument: Agreed. Hairstyles can be expressed for popularity, I wholeheartedly agree with that. However, although enforcing uniform-wearing does not COMPLETELY reduce popularity, it reduces a good portion of it, as most people look at the clothes. And that is still good, and is still a benefit. There is no disadvantage to it. Also, the reason why clothes are the main factors while other details are minor ones is because clothes have brand names. People want to look for good brands, and it tells people if the wearer is rich or not. Hairstyles do not have brands, it is really not considered much. As long as you are wearing Hollister or Nike no one pays much attention to your hairstyle. So, the neg wants completely or nothing. He wants the popularity system to remain, or to be completely destroyed. However, this is a bad attitude, as we are reducing, say, 80% of it, which is much better than not doing it at all. Therefore my second contention is still standing. Rebuttal to 3rd argument, taxes: Actually, this is not true. You say that more taxes are generated with regular clothes. Yes, of course it does! However, this is not a choose-one option. It's not like you have to ONLY buy the uniform and never buy regular clothes again. You can buy both! You can wear normal clothes outside of school, which is actually more than the time inside of school (per week). So basically buying uniforms is an add-on which helps generate revenue alongside regular clothes. Your take is too extreme; people will obviously continue to buy regular clothes. Let's say regular clothes generate x revenue. Uniforms generate y revenue. He says generating x is better than generating y. I say that we generate both x and y. Therefore this contention is still standing. To refute your arguments which you strengthened: 1st contention: A popularity hierarchy is obviously harmful! No one wants to be left out just because they wear ratty clothes. Isn't it better if everyone is on the same level, without rankings based on clothes? Yes, lower people can learn. However, it is not about learning, but the mental damage he/she takes from always being the last one called in kickball, etc. And mental damage does hurt learning. If you are a loner at school because you wear bad clothes, then in a group project you will have no teammates, since no one wants to be with you. Therefore you have to do it all yourself, which is not a good learning way. For your part on hairstyle, I have already refuted above, so your 1st contention is refuted. 2nd contention: You say girls are not rich. Maybe. But girls DO love shopping, and DO love buying. At an immature age they do not know how to save money and will carelessly spend money regardless of how much money they have. And since you are saying girls do not buy too much clothing, you are hurting your own argument/refutation that more taxes will be generated if people buy regular clothes. And you say students can outgrow. Isn't this good, as it generates more revenue? Sure, this may harm the family, but no family is too poor to buy a mere uniform. They spend a lot on school supplies. And your estimate on how much it takes to buy uniforms from k-12 is too extreme. They will outgrow, but probably only in two or three year intervals, not every year. And while it may cause some damage, uniform prices vary, from 20$-249$ (the most extreme). They won't buy uniforms all priced at 249$. And if the family has more than one kid then the older kid can give his old uniform to the younger. Families aren't too rich to buy the most expensive uniforms, every year, for each of their kids. Therefore this contention is refuted. I do not know which contention this is, but you said that more tax is generated with regular clothes. You basically restated your previous statement, and I already refuted that above. Therefore this is refuted. For schools paying for needy families, this is already used in action. It is even used in my school. Therefore this is also refuted. 3rd contention: They wear regular clothes outside of school, obviously. Once school ends, then they wear the uniform until they get home and change. For your joke, haha. And this contention is very illogical as bullies will not just bully people just because they are from a different school. Besides, schools wouldn't be so close that people from both schools can meet on their way home. Again, people will not bully strangers that they do not know. For your personal example, as you have yourself witnessed it, I will not deny it, but keep in mind that your two schools is two out of a million schools in the nation. What may be true for your school may not be true to the millions of thousands of schools out there. As I have rebutted all your counterarguments, I have completely polished all my contentions and they are still standing. I have refuted all your contentions, so they are all void. And not only due to the amount of contentions still unrefuted, or the refutations made, the factor of the winning person should be focused on the reasoning and logic behind their arguments, am I right? Thank you Westernguy2 for having this nice debate with me.

  • PRO

    Uniforms should rule our lives because of lack of better...

    Should uniforms rule our lives

    Uniforms should rule our lives because of lack of better ruler.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Should-uniforms-rule-our-lives/1/