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    Also in the UK, one in four women suffers domestic...

    Feminism has no more battles left to fight. Victories such as gaining the vote, the right to an abo...

    Feminism has plenty more to achieve. In the UK, on average women earn 82% of men’s hourly wage; female graduates earn 19% less than their male counterparts; female pensioners live on 53% of the income of male pensioners. Also in the UK, one in four women suffers domestic violence, and an increase in the reporting of rape in the last thirty years has gone alongside a threefold drop in conviction rates. Worldwide, women do two-thirds of all work, earn one-tenth of all income and own one-hundredth of all property. Two-thirds of the world’s illiterate people are women. 300 million women have no access to contraception. More than 80% of the world’s 50 million refugees and displaced people are women and children. Every year, 2 million girls under 16 are coerced, abducted or trafficked into the sex industry. These are all real problems, on which feminists continue to campaign - as they should.

    • https://debatewise.org/debates/2701-feminism/
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    Allright then. Between a mix if threats ive heard towards...

    Gaming and Feminism

    Allright then. Between a mix if threats ive heard towards women from male gamers and stereotypes for liitle kid games where gurls only get cooking and babysitting games to play with not any adventure games, the "fake gamer girl" myth, and female chatlracters always being oversexualy objectified (which probably means the designers assumed the player is male) and given armor that would in no way protect anyone. And oh yeah the fact that there are games were the player can rape women and beat prostitutes. Thats the condensed version anyway.

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    The problem I see here is that people vaguely talk about...

    Feminism is Necessary

    What rights are afforded to men that aren"t afforded to women? The problem I see here is that people vaguely talk about inequality between the sexes and such but I need specific examples of sexism. Show me the specific acts of sexism so we can fight them together.

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    Not what was actually said. ......

    Modern Feminism

    I will admit i forgot to post evidence about molly shattucks case, which i will put the link for at the end of this argument. You did manage to ignore several valid points in my last post, that came from basic logic and reasoning, but i will say you didn't post a whole lot supporting your claims, specifically the origin of the word hysterical, , actually your only sources that supported your argument were statistics, one of which would not load on my computer, i also could not find anything in your argument about drugs or alcohol playing a roll in any rapes. All the hypocrisy aside i will provide an argument for its own sake. Before i begin i would like to point out that if feminists do support equality and equal rights, why are they called feminists? The word itself leans towards an ideology of women being superior, if they were about equality they would be called equalists, or something with no bias towards women or men. This is not the case. 1-women in government- Recent polling has found that 76 percent of voters agreed that it does not matter whether the candidate is a woman or a man, and 19 percent said that it would actually make them vote for the woman.Voters actually perceive them as hardworking and less corruptible. 26 percent of women candidates ran for the job. again, proving my point that less women run for the position of president or a place in congress, and that their interest has actually dropped in the last ten years in pursuing one. Men's interest appears to have stayed the same.(nymag.com) The reason again, people not voting for Clinton simply don't find her qualified and hypocritical. Women who are qualified will always beat a man who is not qualified or less qualified, it depends on the woman herself, how skilled she is and how hard she works, and what the employer needs and if she fits the professional criteria for the position. the question is not man or woman, the question is who is qualified and works harder. This is proven by looking into the past, and how women are more common in hire up positions and politics than they once were, and how far they have come, since women's suffrage. 2-women's objectification Why would they be trying to sell women's clothes to men? Ads on tv with completely nude women are not allowed to air, so no, i can't say i have noticed that. There are plenty of ads that are so called, "objectifying" men, and make us look like muscular skinny, cold hearted sob's. This again, is simply advertising, it is how companies sell their product, and how they make money, is on how they advertise. Food commercials use the same tactic, portraying their product so people can see it and so they want to buy it, but they are not using certain angles or set ups so that it will be more appealing, they advertise it how it is and nothing more. People may interpret it a certain way, as with clothes or makeup, that it will make them look a certain way or that they need to, but that is their interpretation. Not what was actually said. About the young girl wearing yoga pants, any objectifying found in that example is of their own finding. Wearing something that is revealing is going to catch the eye of a pervert, or pedophile, simply because those people are out their lurking is why they should consider not wearing them. That is not objectification, that is mental illness and criminal thinking and interest. Women objectify themselves and shift the blame onto men. By looking in a mirror and saying, :i am not pretty enough." and using make up and revealing clothing is self objectification. Yes, you indeed are responsible for this concept, it is a product of low self esteem, common in young ages and that my friend is why men objectifying women is an imaginary concept. A lot of men, including myself, recognize that women have feelings and ideas and are just as valid of a person as any man is. The difference is between a man, and an @sshole. The latter being someone who thinks solely of himself and treats men and women equally negative. 3-respect- You somehow managed to ignore everything about false rape accusations which infer that women do have more general respect. Or the fact that they have doors opened for them when entering or leaving a building, or that they have cheaper insurance, or that if a man where to hit a woman, he would have all hell dropped on his head legally and physically by anybody watching and able to intervene. where as a woman hitting a man would be looked over, in fact men face harsher punishments compared to women who committed the same crime. i will post a link from Realsexism.com at the end of this for you to explore the subject of how men are treated worse than women. 4-rape/rape culture Now i will begin by asking where the threat of immediate rape is, from cat calling, if most rapes start from a friend or someone previously known? Not gonna belabor anything here, just simply stating a contradiction. What exactly is your point here? All I see are statistics stating more women get raped then men do. While i think it might be fair to say this is true in some cases, it isn't in every case. In prison, A lot of men get raped, in fact it would make a compareable statistic to how many women are raped outside of prison, I can't find an exact number for how many women are raped yearly, but according to the daily mail, " In 2008 it was estimated that 21600 inmates were sexually assaulted while serving time, according to DOJ figures. That is comparable to the 90,479 rape cases outside of prison." I don't think a resolution for this is teaching boys not to rape, most know this, and know what they are doing when they rape is wrong. it is the fact that some are mentally ill and have criminal mindset. Women might consider learning self defense tactics and carry self defense items, as well as avoiding and DE-escalating situations, and know that these sick individuals are lurking. Nobody jokes about raping women, it is not talked up by men, it is not condoned by anyone, it seriously is those with issues that have not been addressed. 5-hysterical You provided no source for this, again, so I should ignore it, with your logic. I will pick it apart for the sake of it though. I have never thought that is a logical thing to do, and now-a-days would be laughed at and scoffed by any right-minded or educated individual. Considering you said yourself, "many do not know they origin of the word," I would definitely say the idea is not around anymore. 6-false rape accusations. False rape accusations happen a lot, and is as common as rape itself. Mediaradar.org reports that, "A review of 556 rape accusations filed against Air Force personnel found that 27% of women later recanted. Then 25 criteria were developed based on the profile of those women, and then submitted to three independent reviewers to review the remaining cases. If all three reviewers deemed the allegation was false, it was categorized as false. As a result, 60% of all allegations were found to be false.1 Of those women who later recanted, many didn't admit the allegation was false until just before taking a polygraph test. Others admitted it was false only after having failed a polygraph test" proof is right there. Makes me scared sometimes, and floors me that someone could be so sociopathic and psychotic to accuse someone of something so horrible. 6-You as well barely provided sources other than a few statistics for rape, you may also consider not throwing empty assumptions at your opponent as you have advised me to do. http://www.dailymail.co.uk... http://nymag.com...# https://www.washingtonpost.com... http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

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    Instead of levying the amount of money made per...

    Women leaders have a secret agenda to establish a Matriarchy, using feminism as a guiding force

    First off, thanks for your insightful and wonderfully supported argument. Although of my extremist stance, you remained calm throughout and did not invalidate your argument by using ad hominem attacks. Instead, you broke it down part by part and refuted it with your (seemingly objective) proof. However, a majority of your proof failed to relate with my argument. I clearly stated that feminist leaders in 1st World Countries, rather than 3rd world and 2nd world countries (which were displayed throughout your arguments) incorporated feminism into their agendas. In addition, I did not state that women in general know of this agenda, that would be ridiculous and counterproductive. In fact, I said that feminists (not women in general), were simply "proverbial sheep", A.K.A pawns on a chessboard used to achieve a goal. Therefore, a majority of your proof, such as men pouring acid on women in various undeveloped M.E. countries, are null and void. In no way, shape, or form would human right violations against women in 2nd and 3rd world countries affect the forming of a matriarchy in 1st world countries. One of the few instances where you tried to display the "need for equality" in 1st world countries, instead of the need of power, was the wage gap chart, which is not accurate and is extremely misleading. Instead of levying the amount of money made per occupation per hour, this "proof" takes a yearly wage of each respective sex and then derives the "fixed" wage (so if a man makes $44,000 and earns $15.00 an hour in a managerial position at McDonalds, for example, and a women earns $28,000 as a waitress, getting paid minimum wage, the same wage as a man in her position, she would be compared to the man-manager instead of her fellow waiter, ergo instead of occupation per-hour it is cumulative wage of men versus cumulative wage of women http://time.com... ) This very article, is a (subjectively speaking) much more credible source than Huffington post and various other liberal- influenced articles, which you have linked. This article also refutes your points of domestic violence within first world countries. You seem to focus on feminism much more than the idea of matriarchy, because I presume by your arguments feminism is striving toward equality, rather than superiority, and thus not only reinforces your strong beliefs of the feminist movement, but also crushes my idea of a matriarchy. Furthermore, a rather disturbing insight from your argument, "That is, because females tend to be seen as sluts, and because of it, deserve to be raped" is both extremely subjective and enormously offensive, for you are objectifying females as sluts. Perhaps more disturbing, you illustrate men as a whole having a lust to rape a "slut" because they deserve it. You are illustrating men as evil and are further supporting your assumed man-hating stance, which would go against your supposed "gender equality". Moving along, you quote Hillary Clinton as if she is a verifiable source, yet it is proven that politicians constantly lie, even publicly to their supporters , to complete their agenda of holding office http://www.politics.co.uk... , even using misleading statistics as you did (When Obama talked about wage gap, using same statistics as you, John Kerry's Vietnam record in 2004, Nixon's Watergate Scandal, etc). Yet another unreliable source about the apparent "inequality" in first world countries. Then you go on to inexplicably take my hypothetical and try to dissolve it, yet fail again. Presidents have an ability to solely declare Martial Law and thus Martial Law revokes constitutional rights, such as holding elections, etc. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com... Thus, you have no supported proof that there is gender equality in first world countries like the USA, Germany, England, etc. Therefore, there must be a reason why you think so, (this is purely conjecture), with the reason being the scripted media, and its power to sway public opinion http://thefreethoughtproject.com... , with this "fact" influenced upon the masses (Sheep) ( A.K.A. brainwashing). Mainstream media can proceed agendas such as Clinton's. If there is no gender equality, then why is the feminist culture so prevalent today? The only logical reason is the push toward superiority and an ultimate matriarchy. Proof of your elevation, not subjugation, are supplied here http://reason.com... . Thanks for your time, and if throughout this I ever seemed to degrade you in any way, it was purely for the reason of getting my point across.