• PRO

    Don't you get it?Let's say there's a soccer match and...

    school unifroms should not be banned

    Don't you get it?Let's say there's a soccer match and everyone is wearing the same thing.People will support their own team.While if they are wearing casual,some may go to an extent of supporting the other team.This makes them less proud of their school.I think you haven't researched enough on non-uniform schools.Students force their parents to buy new clothes every now and then to impress their friends which wastes money!It seems you don't know that there are different types of bullies.Some are clothing bullies.By the way I said it reduces bullying.I think you don't want to wear the same things as others are wearing because you are a show off.School is a place of equality.No matter what race you are from or what clothes you wear.Non uniform schools defy this rule.A lower class family's child may get bullied of what they wear.In addition to that safety is more important than comfort.I think you don't understand this.I also want to add another point.Uniforms increase expectations of student from themselves.They tend to behave better when dressed neatly.Also ,some students may break the school dress code and may end up wearing inappropriate clothes.Give me some ways in which students can be identified apart from uniforms.Uniforms have improved attendance .Poor children feel uncomfortable going to school because they will be mocked at!How would you feel being one of the poor children?School uniforms create pride.Children feel proud of themselves.By the way they also remove dress competitions or peer pressure.For your information,86 percent of the parents in US support uniforms.School uniforms reduce gang activity.For example,there might be a gang of blue.Students must wear blue.Moreover school uniforms are a source of protection.An intruder can be easily identified at a school where there is uniform.While in non-uniform schools,the intruder may disguise him or herself as a student.Also students may wear T shirts saying bad stuff.Like you are my slave .

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  • PRO

    Having uniforms would not be boring, it would be fun....

    say no to uniforms

    Having uniforms would not be boring, it would be fun. Like cake. Or boobies. Or Method Man. http://www.youtube.com...

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  • CON

    if we have uniforms no can express there feelings and...

    say no to uniforms

    if we have uniforms no can express there feelings and people would look the same and it would so boring

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  • PRO

    Why would a uniform prevent you from expressing your...

    say no to uniforms

    Why would a uniform prevent you from expressing your feelings? While a uniform may take away your ability to express yourself via the clothes you wear, you just then have to express yourself in other, more tangible ways. Does a uniform prevent you from growing your hair long or cutting it short? You can wear buttons or color your hair or wear different color socks... all kinds of things! Learning to be different when everyone looks "the same" will be a valuable life lesson for you. It would not be boring. It will be the best thing that's ever happened to you as a person. Plus, you don't have to spend so much money on clothes and use it instead on cell phones or video games or Pokemon cards or whatever you kids do nowadays. Maybe you don't have to worry about getting randomly killed by a gang for wearing the wrong color too. Nobody can bully you about your clothes, because they will be wearing the same ones. Who knows? With all the extra time you get from not shopping for clothes, maybe you can get your homework done or learn something instead. School uniforms are the bomb.

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  • PRO

    When the uniforms are sold to the students, they have to...

    Students should be required to wear school uniform.

    Hello, everyone, welcome to this debate. Today I would like to debate in affirmation of the topic that students should be required to wear school uniform. My first justification is that it creates an orderly, organized atmosphere which enforces discipline. My second argument is that it eliminates part of the popularity system. And my last argument is that it generates revenue for the government. Although this has no solid, tangible evidence, it is true that having uniforms creates an organized and orderly atmosphere. It is no secret that private schools and schools of high ranking all require their students to wear uniforms. When students are required to wear uniforms, discipline is in action. And discipline constitutes good education. A subpoint of this argument is that it gives the wearer a sense of honor and pride to wear such a uniform. My next point of analysis is that this eliminates the popularity system. Go to any school, and you could be sure to find some sort of clique or group ruling the school, or at least a complex system of factions. This is inevitable. And one of the main causes of this is fashion. At the initial first day of school everyone is at square one. No one knows no one, and there is no popularity system. So how does people know who's going to be popular, and who to be friends with? The first reactions is to look at their clothes. Do they dress nice? Do they wear this brand? Once a group of girls have established a clique, there is already a system of clans and gangs beginning to form. The remedy to this phenomenon is to eliminate a cause of popularity, fashion, by making uniform-wearing mandatory. Only this way will people consider others for who they really are, not by their clothes. My last contention is that this generates revenue for the government. When the uniforms are sold to the students, they have to pay taxes, which therefore generates funds for the government. This might seem pretty minimal compared to other revenue-earning tactics, but consider this: thousands of schools across the country, with hundreds of students flooding the campus every year, selling uniforms. After a decade or so, we would have cleared a significant portion of our national debt while giving leeway to other fund-needing programs. To sum it all up, my three main assertions are that: uniforms create a sense of conduct, uniforms eliminate the complex popularity system in schools, and lastly, uniforms generate significant revenue for the government. Thank you.

  • CON

    Even coming from a poor household, And let us focus on...

    School Uniform Should be Compulsory

    I'd like to clarify the points I made in Round 1, And perhaps shed more light on my responses to Pro's R2 arguments. First and foremost, That schools do punish defaulters for coming in an incomplete uniform, Or a dirtied one is very much true. I relate to this as I used to live in Asia for over 3 years, And the school system there is rather strict. However, Even in a general case, All one can see from the recommendations you made about "defaulting students" is that school uniforms merely complicate things. If we are to look at it from a neutral perspective, Wearing our own clothes eliminates the need for punishments or for students to feel intimidated or scared of the "uniform code". I believe that students live in fear due to the rigid codes of uniforms that most schools implement. Thankfully in the states, Most schools do not have this, But looking at it from the students' viewpoints, Uniforms are but an unnecessary burden. Countering your argument on liberal discipline (and I complement you for putting forth a strong argument there), Your concerns on bullying takes this debate to a new topic - bullying. Economic segregation, While existent, Is not very common within the classroom, Especially when it comes to hostility. In fact, Statistics show (and I'm afraid I cannot quote the sources here due to ambiguity over identity) that the sort of economic bullying you talk about is almost non-existent. I recommend a thought provoking article, That can also educate us on bullying and the reasons behind it. https://patch. Com/minnesota/roseville/bp--10-reasons-why-students-bully-16552bf0 Don't misunderstand - I am not deviating from the topic we are debating here, But merely infusing more knowledge into my argument. Also, I do not see how uniforms can actually bring about "equality", Like you say. Of course, Everyone is dressed the same way, And there are no untoward signs of hierarchy, But it rarely is due to the clothes people wear. Even coming from a poor household, And let us focus on some countries in Asia, As this is rare in the states, A student's uniform will be different from one from a richer family. I was used to this sight when in Bangkok, The poorer ones wear tattered uniforms, Bleached and unclean, The richer ones' being freshly ironed and neat. Uniforms, To counter your argument there, Do nothing to stop bullying, More precisely economic bullying. Too much freedom, I agree, Is more detrimental than beneficial. But isn't the basic freedom of choice (of what to wear) well within reasonable limits? Again, If we are talking about control over what students wear, I have never opposed valid rules set to ensure discipline in schools - if anything, Students who wear disrespectful/inappropriate clothing must be strictly disallowed from continuing as such. Your argument, "liberalism is important, But is not always the best idea for school children" is wrong, At least in the context of this debate, As I mentioned liberal DISCIPLINE, Not complete and arbitrary "freedom". You see, The term is difficult to define - Liberal discipline, And this to clarify everything, Must be coercive yet forgiving, Rule-bound yet reasonably free. Preventing students from going to the bathroom during classes is anarchical. Setting proper break times for them to do so, Is liberal discipline - while it has rules that must be followed, These rules do not, In any way, "confine" or "prison" a young student in any way. Again, My metaphor to robots seems to have been taken a little too seriously. I shall repeat, It was but a metaphor. Also, While I do agree that these uniforms stay at best until the students reach their homes, To think that one should sit in the same sweaty clothes that he/she changed into in the morning, And fastidiously tighten their ties, Almost metaphorical to nooses for convicts, Is saddening. I shall say this one more time - students deserve freedom. Imagine bringing up a future society schooled in places where they ought to wear the exact same thing day in and day out - can such a future fathom the concept of freedom? It takes one to experience true freedom, For him/her to advocate it themselves. Equality is in no way "better" than freedom - equality arises OUT OF freedom, And it is when people believe that they are truly free, Even in the midst of others, That society becomes equal. About the time factor, One cannot argue much against the fact that ironing and washing your clothes everyday takes much more time than choosing what to wear, Which will at most take about 3 minutes. Economically speaking too, Aren't uniforms less viable? You see, You cannot expect people to wear uniforms out of school (you said it yourself). As a result, Parents buy a set of uniforms, And on top of that they must buy the daily clothes. Having no uniforms saves money, As the clothes you wear at school can be worn elsewhere, Too. I once wrote a poem on unity, That had me allude to it given your argument on it - "yet what equality lies when we wear suits of grey and black, When people look not at your robes but at your skin when you want them to see your image, They see your sexuality o society, The future is wretched" The fact is, Racism or minority intolerance stems not out of the clothes you put on, But on other, "truer" defining characteristics. True unity cannot be obtained from uniforms, For (and this is a metaphor), Would you think your grandpa goes to school because he wore a uniform? Regarding safety (very robust argument there too, Good job! ) there are several other ways of identification. Classes have roll calls, Students have ID cards, And some schools even have CCTV cameras. In fact, The best defense is the one based on logic - while uniforms do ensure that strangers stand out, There are no limits on whether they themselves could be wearing uniform. The options are endless for criminals these days, And while I hope such events do not occur, Not having uniforms is every bit about as safe as making them compulsory. Hence I shall end my arguments here - giving students freedom is the priority. School uniforms, As I have pointed out, Waste time and money and fail drastically in creating a free environment for students, Where they can understand the true meaning and value of freedom, And in turn build a future with freedom for all, For equality is but a consequence of a free society - where free minds dwell, Equality shall follow.

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  • PRO

    But I go to school that doesn't have uniform and in that...

    Kids shouldn't wear uniforms to school

    But I go to school that doesn't have uniform and in that school we have a rule that we aren't aloud to wear inappropriate clothing other wise they'll go to the principal.

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  • PRO

    My first reason is that a school uniform teaches students...

    School Uniform

    School Uniforms should be worn by students everywhere. My first reason is that a school uniform teaches students to dress smartly and take pride in their appearance. . . . Perhaps most importantly, A uniform means students don't have to worry about peer pressure when it comes to their clothes. When everyone is dressed the same, Worrying about what you look like isn't so important. It leads to more confidence in oneself and they can spend less time worrying about what they have to wear to school.

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  • CON

    This means that in summer, children might be allowed to...

    School uniforms are often impractical or uncomfortable

    A lot of schools have a choice of uniform so that children can wear what they feel most comfortable in. For example, in Australia, which is a very hot country, schools often have a summer uniform of clothes that are more comfortable in the hot weather [9]. This means that in summer, children might be allowed to wear shorts instead of trousers and short-sleeved instead of long-sleeved shirts. If children were allowed to choose their own clothes to wear to school, instead of a uniform, they might choose impractical clothes themselves, like baggy tee shirts or long skirts, or jeans with chains hanging from them. To make sure that children are all wearing sensible clothes in which they will be able to take part in all their school activities, there needs to be one uniform that all children at the school wear.  

  • CON

    Things like that are more challenging for the brain than...

    School uniform: good or bad

    The school uniforms are good because it doesn't show whether you're poor or rich. People will not know if you are in uniform. Uniforms allow people to focus less on what they are wearing and more about learning. Plus, if you buy 5 shirts and 5 pants you are good for a week... You don't have to go out and shop for hours on end! Uniforms also would be cheaper than having to go and shop at 5 different stores just for a shirt or jeans. You might actually save money! Plus, instead of getting creative with clothes, how about we get creative with art and machines. Bring back American ingenuity and thinking! Things like that are more challenging for the brain than just pulling something out of the closet and making it match. Unless you are making your own clothes which is very creative, don't say your being creative when your just pulling something out of the closet that you didn't make! Just wear uniforms!

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