• CON

    3) School uniforms negatively enforce the idea that all...

    Whether students should wear uniforms Part 2

    1) Other efforts can be made to make students feel more united that don't include stripping them of their individuality. 2) While it"s true that less wealthy students can't always afford to compete with other students, lesser fortunate students won"t always be able to afford the high prices of school uniforms. 3) School uniforms negatively enforce the idea that all people are the same, should look the same, and should fit in with everyone else. Schools should promote individuality rather than enforcing conformity. Pro"s argument can be considered a Red Herring fallacy argument because their focal points are centered on bullying instead of school uniforms. C) All schools should not mandate or require school uniforms.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Whether-students-should-wear-uniforms-Part-2/1/
  • CON

    As children our forms of expression based upon...

    Should every children wear school uniforms at every school

    Should we wear uniforms? As a student myself I can say from experience I don't see the point in uniforms. As children our forms of expression based upon personalities are limited, So the way we dress and carry ourselves reflect who we are as a person and if wearing a uniform would generalize us then it should not happen. As for bulling it will still happen. Bulling is not the reflection of the bullied but the bully. Generalizing clothes will not help, And many still will find work around. Shortening skirts, Fancy accessories, Etc. Such uniforms do nothing but add extra burden and financial if not time consuming weight upon a student and family

  • PRO

    If we are shown how to wear a uniform, then we become...

    Public school students should wear uniforms

    Yes, I agree with your previous statement. When we become older, we all have to wear uniforms. Life is like that. But wouldn't it be better if the habit is ingrained into their mind from an early age? If we are shown how to wear a uniform, then we become better at wearing it, and you know that to get something correct, it takes time. Well, the time to start practicing is when we start school. That way, we become responsible adults who wear uniform tidier than the ones who don't. "A wise person does at once, what a fool does at last. Both do the same thing; only at different times." - Baltasar Gracian

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Public-school-students-should-wear-uniforms/1/
  • PRO

    I must say that when I was at school, I resented wearing...

    School Uniforms

    I would also like to thank my opponent and apologise for my own absence. I must say that when I was at I must say that when I was at school, I resented wearing my school uniform (blazer, cap, tie, etc.). Furthermore, the dress code was strictly enforced, I remember getting detentions for such heinous crimes as rolling my sleeves up and loosening my tie, which I felt was very harsh at the time. However, now I am older, I am determined that the younger generation should suffer as I did! Thank you!

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/3/
  • PRO

    Why would the parents complain about the uniform? ... You...

    School Uniforms

    More confident? that's what you said. 1. It does not make you more self conscious it makes you less self conscious 2. Why would the parents complain about the uniform? 3. It doesn't draw more attention or stress because everybody is wearing the same thing 4. I don't think you know the difference between school uniform and school dress code 5. You still haven't rebutted my comment on my number 2,3,and 5 are you dropping those arguments if so you automatically lose

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/31/
  • PRO

    we should keep because people can tell what school we are...

    School Uniforms

    we should keep because people can tell what school we are from by the logo and we look neat,tidy and smart. http://www.birchfld.bham.sch.uk... Everyone looks the same and there is no pressure to dress a certain way, parents are under less financial pressure to keep buying the latest fashion for their kids, it saves time in the morning as you don't have to think on what you have to wear. It also sends out a signal on the standards of the school when pupils are seen in their uniform in public.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/40/
  • CON

    Also, students hate uniforms. ......

    Puclic Schools Should Require Uniforms

    R1: Does uniforms save money? First off, I would like to point out that my opponent has no evidence stating that what she has said is true. If she said something happens as a result of something. Then she has the burrden of proof. She must prove that what she says is true. However, I would like to point out that students can save ordanary clothes from a year to year bases, and that idea is not just subject to uniforms. Also, the only reason for having schools is to teach kids, not save or make money. R2: Does it help schools? It may help schools a little bit however, they do not need more money. The average school can afford to spend $12,979 per student per year (every year) [1]. Extra money would barely help the average public school in America. Also, students hate uniforms. In many cases students have went up in protest over not being able to have the liberty to choose what they want to wear [2,3,4]. In most cases uniforms are a 'hot button' for students. If students are mad over what they wear and everytime they look at themselves in the mirror are reminded of the anger they have uniforms, then this will create a huge destraction from their studies. It can also errupt into huge protests (like the links up above). The cons outway they pros in this issue. R3: Bullying and other stuff my opponnet said... Dr. David L. Brunsma an assistant sociology professor at the University of Missouri. Conducted research that last 8 years long on the subject of School Uniforms and there effects on grades and bullying. In his concluding report he stated that he found no statistically significant differences in school climate supporting a school uniform policy. In addition, the data do not support an improvement in academic achievement. In fact, there was a slightly negative impact at the 10th grade level in reading. There was also no significant change in school attendance that could be credited to school uniforms [5]. So this basically rules out everything else my opponent stated after the lucrative part of her arguments. D1: Forcing kids to dress alike will only help create more followers than leaders. Due to the research of Dr. David L. Brunsma, my opponnet's statement on Catholic schools is refutted. As for the rest of what she said about the future work place. That is the whole point of my contention. In the future the people would not be able to establish their individuality and who they are, which is why they must do it while they are young. If they don't it would have disasterous effects on students in the future. D2: Uniforms are unconstitutional. The point of limits on free speach in public schools are not equal to that of freedom expression. The point of rules against cursing is to mantain respect for peers and teachers alike, as opposed to freedom of expression has barley any that could mean harm to other students. For example: you can't compare me insulting the teacher or any of my peers to me wearing a simple t-shirt and jeans. One must have a very good reason to place limits on anothers constitutional rights and quite frankly saving or earning an extra buck is not a good reason! I will now wait for my opponnet's response. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org... [2]http://wcfcourier.com... [3]http://www.metro.co.uk... [4]http://www.ehow.com... [5]http://www.gate.net...

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Puclic-Schools-Should-Require-Uniforms/1/
  • CON

    If parents think a school and its rules are terrible,...

    Private Schools Should Have Their Students Wear Uniforms

    No, my response was indeed relevant. My very first acceptance post stated that I will take the side of schools deciding for themselves (via the free market). I'm sorry that your copy/paste response was not tailored for my counter-argument. Also, you don't seem to understand the fundamentals behind a free-market education system, which is what private schools are. If parents think a school and its rules are terrible, they don't send their kids there. The school administration can write the guidebook, but if the parents don't approve, the school will not get any students. The topic of this debate was not whether or not school uniforms have benefits for the students or not. It was if private schools should have their students wear uniforms. It's a question of what is good for the school. A school without any students isn't not a good school. The free market is the only deciding factor in this question. Many private schools do implement uniforms, and many do not.

  • PRO

    And my argument does not contain Red Herring because...

    Whether students should wear uniforms Part 2

    School uniforms are not necessarily expensive, most schools allow students to purchase uniforms from outside the school, meaning you can always find discounts while back to school shopping. And I agree other efforts can be made to make students feel united, like joining a club or a team. But the reality is the whole student body can't participate in one single club or one team, the best way to include the entire student body in a unifying manner is to appoint students to professional school attire, which they will be using in their future careers as well. And uniforms are not stripping of them of their individuality instead it will be used to even the starting points in all students' character, and allow them to be judged on their actions in the school as in joining clubs or participating in school events, instead of how many name brand clothes you have or whether or not you are under the poverty line. Which in turn is preparing them for their future careers, because in reality you will be hired on how many internships or volunteer work you've done, your actions not how good you look in a suit. And my argument does not contain Red Herring because everything I said is relevant to school uniforms, its just one of the reasons school uniforms are promoted and bullying is a big reason, the topic of safety is commonly brought up and what it does is make gang identification is obscured. Group violence and theft are dissipated... Children are no longer identified by their 'colors.' Uniform dress alleviated the feelings of imminent danger for students who were afraid they might inadvertently dress in gang colors. As well as prevent bullying as I've stated before. Your argument on the other hand presents itself with the straw man fallacy because you misrepresented my conclusion by saying it strips individuality and then attacked it with the oncoming premises. Conclusion: School uniforms are inexpensive, safe, and should be required by schools.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Whether-students-should-wear-uniforms-Part-2/1/
  • CON

    A study done proves that most bullying incidents occur as...

    Schools should not require their students to wear uniforms

    My first contention is that uniforms improve schools overall-- Uniforms, according to a study done by Virginia Draa, assistant professor at Youngstown State University, found that uniforms in schools increased attendance, graduate numbers, and decreased suspension rates. What we can derive from this information is he following. Schools in which uniforms are institutionalized have students who are more academically productive, disciplined and good citizens of the world, and are studying in a safer environment. Children are the future. They are the future business, political, and social leaders of our world. It is absurd to call that a problem in any way. My second contention is that uniforms are the best solution to bullying-- Bullying is a large problem in schools all over the world. Bullying leads to depression, lower self esteem, academic problems, and in many cases suicide. A study done proves that most bullying incidents occur as result of clothing or apparel. The study shows that kids who may not be able to afford expensive designer clothing become easy targets. Instituting uniforms completely solves this problem. The result of This is a lower in bullying and crime in schools. This helps students focus on their academic, spiritual, and self goals without the distraction of bullies, or worry about their appearance. My third and final contention is that uniforms are good for the economy-- The popular assumption, as my opponent stated, is that using uniforms would give a blow to the textile industry. However it is absolutely incorrect. When uniforms are put in place families must spend money on the uniforms to wear to school. Each school, district, or state may have a different sponsor who provides the uniforms. That boosts those companies' sales. But, children don't only attend school all day, they also have outside activities or just daily wear. The market for textiles doubles! Uniforms and other after school wear. Not only this, but schools and families will result in a more disposable income. Taxpayers will get more out of their schools because the schools will be spending money on improving education, rather than disciplinary measures. All in all, taxpayers get tenant they deserve, and the economy is actually boosted. As my clear reasoning and evidence has proven, uniforms are indeed good for children, our economy, but most of all the world. It would be absurd to call uniforms bad.