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Feminism is ruining video games

I understand where your coming from. You say I am making assumptions without any hard data or articles to back it up. Well I don't plan on having to rely on a sited source because I don't need to. Some things are just felt and seen by people who have a love for the medium. Before getting to my Mortal Kombat point I would like to re-mention a few games brought up in this argument. Fat Princess, Metal Gear Solid 5, and Dragon Crown are all games that in FACT was ridiculed by the media for their depiction of women. Now you may say it could have just been a group of women who had no relation to feminism, but come on now? We can safely assume that the only people who would go to the lengths of complaining about a woman character being too big, or not enough clothes, or too big of breast are feminist. Now back to Mortal Kombat. No I don't have any hard data on if the majority of the fans did not like the story for the reason of the main character being a female. BUT there are a lot of forum post from various sites, videos, and blogs, of people showing their disappointment in the story. The previous game in the series was highly reviewed, especially for its story. Then the next game came out, and gameplay wise it was good. But story wise it did not live up to the previous, with a disappointing ending. As gamers, comic fans, and nerds a like. We all know the feeling when you have your favorite series that you love. Then out of no where they make the new main character a girl, or they make a female have a clear advantage over a male character who should be stronger. Do we know the reason for a fact? Do we know if it was feminism influence on gaming, or was it a creative decision? We don't know? Loyal fans can tell when a certain aspect of the series is pandering to a certain sub group. The point I'm making is that feminism ruins our games with developers making changes in favor of the feminist party. Developers now have to be more conscious of feminist insecurities to not get bad press. More and more we see story lines and characters just being "phoned in" to have a female be more powerful than a male counterpart without any validity in the context of the game. Am I saying women can't be heroes? No. Am I saying they can't be powerful? No. All I am saying for the suspension of disbelief to work the character or the story line has to show all the strengths and weakness of characters (male or female), and not just give away important roles just to please a small fraction of gamers that are displeased either way you make your story.

Feminism should end.

Dang, you talk a whole bunch of crap. I wish you would beat my butt, Jennifer Lopez. Let me ask you a question, two actually, how frickin' stupid are you to put Jennifer Lopez as your name and how fake is that profile pic? First of all, Donald Trump has never been proven to be a rapist. Yes, he did cheat on his wives, but, and yes, you predicted me saying this, but so did Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton is a sexual predator. Two, "Killing a baby means nothing"?! Wow. You really are a sack of crap. I don't know how you got married or maybe that's faked, too. This might be a shock to you, but babies lives do matter. Not only Black lives. Or African American, sorry. Three, I never said that protesters throwing feces filled balloons at policemen generalized their whole gender. It is feminism. Feminism does not represent all of women. Not every women on earth supports feminism. Look at Judge Judy. Four, Women don't get paid less due to pregnancy. That is easily the stupidest argument to back up the wage gap I've heard in a while, and that's a strong statement. Men can get Kidney Stones, which is also terrible. Heck, we can get frickin' cancer. Listening to your stupid debate is cancer, so I guess I'm right. And while I'm at it, yes, I can be wrong on certain things, (After all, I am "just a stupid 14 year old"), but I know I'm right on this. Feminsim did support equal rights for women, but that is NOT what it is today. And by the way, I listen to and watch Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, and Fox News, so go suck one. And Donald Trump has helped this nation a lot by bringing the market back up, creating more jobs in 1 year than Obama did in 8 years, and ACTUALLY trying to stop school shootings from happening by passing laws. And frick you for saying you'd whoop my butt. You need to stop talking all this crap behind the computer and do it in real life.

Feminism is no longer beneficial to our modern society

Sorry for forfeiting, there was a couple of urgent things I had to take care of. Since the BoP is on me, I will now give to arguments, one for the last round and one for this round. 1) Feminism had been beneficial but now we already have left the prejudice behind us. I am not saying that gender equality is no longer at presence, but only that it doesn't really matter anymore. If male truly have a significant advantage towards woman, if we really have control simply for being who we are, why would feminism even exist? And yes, you would ask me for evidence and I do have it, LOGIC. If man do have the upper hand wouldn't we want to control any outcry? Any voices? If not, wouldn't that mean we are NOT the sexist person feminism portrays us to be? 2) Feminists fail to uphold gender equality. They are hating on men and developing into a supremacy or at least gender exclusivity. If both genders are supposed to be equal, how come in every Japanese train/subway there are one whole car reserved for woman? How come feminist Marilyn Frenc's quote saying all men are rapists are still such a popular ideology with feminists? How come Room to Read and many famous foundations alike only offer academic education to women and in fact have a ad saying "Transform a Girl's Life, send her to school" on the home page and noone says anything meanwhile boy only schools are considered sexist? (St. Mary's, classic example). How come the "sorry, it's a boy" commercial was passed on to the Superbowl and even considered "Not Sexist" and to date not a single person apologised? I get it, you may think that these are just individual examples, and you may be right, however, without feminism this would be much harder to do. What I am insisting is that we simply drop feminism as an ideology in our world. Or at least introduce some kind of Masculinism without being called sexist.

This house believes that the feminist movement should renounce the title of "Feminism".

Before I begin, I would like to thank my opponent for accepting this debate. Ladies and Gentlemen this debate revolves whether the term Feminism is still needed so that equal rights could be achieved. And as side proposition, we believe that the feminist movement should renounce the title of "Feminism". Why? 1) The idea and connotations behind the word "feminism" have become so corrupted that they give gender equality activists, ie feminists, a bad name, therefore should be renounced. 2) That the meaning of the word itself is flawed. 3) The feminist movement has met its objectives, the title of "feminism"" is now no longer needed to empower women, therefore should be renounced. Let me begin by raising some statistics. In 2005, a poll conducted by CBS asked 2 questions: (1) Do you consider yourself to be a feminist, or not? (2) A feminist is someone who believes in social, political, and economic equality of the sexes. Do you think of yourself as a feminist or not? In answer to the first question, only 24% of women and 14% of men answered yes, whereas in response to the second there was a drastic increase, with over half of participants answering yes. What does this show us? This tell us that in today's society, the title of "feminism" no longer means what it should, and therefore must be renounced. The connotations behind the word have shifted from a word of empowerment and equality to a title that can only be taken with the belief that women are superior to men. It has become associated with feminist extremists and misandrists who damage the integrity of the title itself. Although these people do not represent the majority of feminists, this is what the word has come to mean. With a world dominated by the media, the gross exaggeration of "feminist" ideals has tainted the feminist movement's image, and consequently make people shy away from feminism. The title of "feminism" is in fact doing harm to the feminist movement by discouraging potential support with its bad rep. Carrying on with this, we can see that the word "feminism" takes on many more meanings that it originally entailed. Liberal feminism, radical feminism, marxist feminism, cultural feminism, ecofeminism. Search deeper and there are probably a myriad of examples. The title "feminism" has branched off and diversified so much so that it has become difficult to ascertain what it truly means to be a feminist. It is no longer true to its initial meaning, and in fact clouds people's knowledge of feminism itself, confusing them and further alienating potential feminists. Again we can see from this that the title of "feminism" is doing more harm to the feminist movement than good. Moving on to my second substantive: The the word itself has limitations. The word feminism is inherently inferior, as it fails to regard the rights and contributions of half of the other half of the population. Obviously in the past it has served its purpose to empower women, but in the present many feminists have come to take the stance that men cannot be part of the feminist movement. This is holding back the progress of the feminist movement, and becoming a huge obstacle in feminism's true purpose: to promote equal rights for both sexes. It is much inferior to a universal term such as "equalism", which takes into account the contributions and opinions of all groups in society. This is another reason why the title "feminism" should be renounced: because equality cannot progress beyond a certain point until such exclusive terms are abandoned. I will be introducing my 3rd point in the coming round.

current state of feminism in first-world countries

To summarize my arguments, feminism is still a huge force for good in the modern world. Gender inequalities for both sexes exist in disturbing amounts. Despite many objectionable actions done in the name of feminism, the actions of a few do not outweigh the many. Feminists work not to punish sexists, but rather replace sexism with understanding and equality.

New Western Feminism is pointless and oppresive.

First, thanks for accepting. This is a topic that is seldom discussed, and very much needs to be. I should highlight, in case my opponent or the audience forgets, that your duty is to show how the Western Feminism of today is infutile has serves a real purpose in advocating gender equality- meaning financial, legal (or otherwise) equality for both men and women. My task, on the other hand, is to show evidence to the contrary, that it only focuses on the supremacy of women, and oppresses the right of Freedom Of Speech. On Pointlessness Since its prime, when Feminism actually focused on the real needs of women when their rights where obstructed from them, it has become an organisation of blathering bigots, taking to the most futile cases as Protesting Fashion Shows and reporting those who make penis jokes (No, I'm not joking, both cases can be found here:. http://www.independent.co.uk... + http://www.guardian.co.uk...) Is Modern, Western Feminism Oppressive? You don't have to look too far to see examples of what I mean. Feminism has taken to the abstuction of the Freedom Of speech of others in its modern era (view You tube links at the top-right of my argument). Just last week, in the University Of Toronto, a group of Feminists pulled a fire alarm in hope of silencing a group of critics. The group that the Feminists tried to silence where a Gender Equality group called Equality Canada. The ground for their protests where that Equality Canada held hidden misogynistic views and that those views where evident on their website. Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you are for truth I encourage you to look at the website yourselves - http://equalitycanada.com... The list of objections of Equality Canada, the group being abused and protested by the Feminists in the videos I'll provide at the top right hand side, reads like this (again, check the website for proof of this): 1. To advance education with discussion of equality-especially gender equality, reason and science. 2. To provide a platform for collaboration between groups that discuss gender equality. 3. To participate in consciousness raising activities, to do with equality, that are routinely ignored. 4. To utilise media so that we may discuss the taboo subjects of gender equality. If my opponent can point out any misogynistic nature in that, than she/he can offer a case. Until then, all the Feminists are doing is, once again, restricting Freedom Of Speech, and thus are oppressive.

Feminism is irrelevant, unjust and flawed. It should be stopped.

Forgive me for my shoddy grammar and the incorrect use of refute. I did not proof read my argument well enough obviously. You really have to understand what modern day mainstream-media feminism entails. If feminism was JUST about females being equal to men, then everyone would acknowledge its place in society. The truth is, females have been equal to men for a long time. There continues to be more and more laws and bills passed in favor of women over men; especially concerning birth and child custody rights. Among this, there are also bills which protect women experiencing domestic violence (yet surprisingly enough, there is no such bill for men). We live in a society today where both men and women are equal. While both may have different roles according to social norm, that does mean that the two genders are unequal. But I digress... Back to my main point, the mainstream media feminism of today is full of misandry. Go look at feminist blogs, feminism websites, etc. This has only occurred because While both may have different roles according to social norm, that does mean that the two genders are unequal. But I digress... Back to my main point, the mainstream media feminism of today is full of misandry. Go look at feminist blogs, feminism websites, etc. This has only occurred because feminism has no place anymore in society. Since women now have equality, privileged females, who know NOTHING of the true struggles of the women of the past, have nothing left to stand for. Now what's left is a large group of females who like to point the finger at men for every little inconvenience in their lives. Its idiotic, moronic, and is only poisoning the minds of young females such as yourself. Stop putting yourself in a box and trying to depict living a life without equality. You already have freedom and equality, reach for it and take it. Make something of yourself and leave this nonsense behind.

Feminism is currently helping us reach gender equality in 1st world countries

Thank you, Con. And on another note I would like to apologize for the inconvenient delay in my argument. (1) Feminism is in fact helping to progressively surge societies into gender equality. (1A) To first prove this contention, I will briefly define what feminism is: "the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men." The very concept of feminism is relatively broad and covers a vast amount of different media outfits and historical/public figures. Feminism as a collective whole comes in many forms and many people speak out on the issue in the modern political world. Need I remind anyone that feminism - that being the advocacy of women's rights - has allowed women to serve in the military and to vote. This equality was not given from the beginning - this was a right that was fought for for more than a hundred years but really began to kickstart in America and such other countries when the major civil rights movements were beginning - both from the black populace and LGBTQAA populace. (1B) Feminism is also responsible for the social awareness of different double-standards that impact both men and women. Again, feminism is about equality for all genders. The Huffington Post even wrote an article on its website covering the story of a 25-year-old comic artist from Japan with the name "Rasenth". He had published a comic that demonstrated double-standards that impacted women. However the comic also described how coming together as a collective species of humans and understanding one another is the key to solving this problem of gender inequality. This is on an economic and political level, of course. http://www.huffingtonpost.com... I would like Con, as well as the audience watching this debate take place, to look at the following article explaining 23 ways that feminism has better improved the lives of women. http://mic.com... And then to also take a close look at this next article explaining how feminism is truly an interest mutual to more than just woman - but to men - and how the idea of feminism becoming such a popular concept in society has definitely been a benefit to just more than women. http://thefbomb.org... (2) Con has made some points I would like to refute. (2A) "A total of 20% of Americans support feminism, despite this an overwhelming majority of 82% of Americans are in favor of equality between the sexes. The only logical explanation for this is people see feminist actions and they don't believe that feminism is for equality." I would like to address that in this very same article it is made clear that 82% of the U.S population believes in gender equality which is directly what feminism is. It just so happens, however, that feminism is more focused on the issue of women's rights and their systemic disadvantages. Whilst regarding the social standards that negatively affect men, feminists often address these problems in social media. However, feminism is also heavily dependent on the assimilation of men into the movement to band together with women and fight for this social equity as a collective whole. While these 82% of people may not align themselves with the feminist movement, they withhold the same progressive ideals. http://site.nomas.org... (how men are crucial to feminism) "In this video she talks about how in the movement of feminism the only issues that are talked about are women's issues, on the other hand men's issues are outright ignored." Con's perception of the feminist movement/ideology seems to be revolving around the concept that women are being given all of the benefits while men are thrown under the bus. Need I say again that feminism is quite literally equality for all genders? Many feminists will acknowledge men's problems but not necessarily protest them with picketing and such other methods. But does this mean the issue is not being addressed? Of course not. Simply speaking out on the issue is a good enough means of spreading it as it is. The detriment within this debate about Con's argument is the simple misconception between radical feminism (ethusing a matriarchy) and legitimate textbook-definition feminism (equality). http://www.telegraph.co.uk... Allow me to introduced the above article. This article talks about a well-known feminist public figure who stands up and addresses the issues that men face in societies. "The 64-year-old academic is the star of hit YouTube series The Factual Feminist, which doesn’t just stick up for men, but also calls-out the sisterhood on false stats, cruel comments and double-standards. You know, the stuff that alienates men from the gender equality debate in the first place." Again, growing to understand that true feminism advocates gender equality as a universal, moral right is imperative to this debate. Feminism as a movement and ideology encompasses economic, social and political equality for all. "Feminism is responsible for his death."