• PRO

    Research is underway to develop microbes that would...

    Synthetic biology can help fight climate change and pollution

    Rep. Henry Waxman (Democrat, California), Chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said in a May 2010 hearing on the topic of synthetic biology: "Synthetic biology also has the potential to reduce our dependence on oil and to address climate change. Research is underway to develop microbes that would produce oil, giving us a renewable fuel that could be used interchangeably with gasoline without creating more global warming pollution. Research could also lead to oil-eating microbes, an application that, as the Gulf spill unfortunately demonstrates, would be extremely useful."[

    • http://www.debatepedia.org/en/index.php/Debate:_Artificial_life
  • CON

    https://cei. ... The ball is in your court HockeyPunk to...

    Climate change is a real thing, And we could be in danger if we don't act fast.

    While it may seem that I am weakening my own position, I will concede that climate change IS a real thing. It undeniable that the climate changes however, The question is how much do we influence it and are we in as much danger as Greta Thunberg thinks we are? I would very much appreciate the studies from my competitor because the studies I've read all rely on predictive climate models and not on actual data of the climate as it is. I hope theirs doesn't. There is also the rather odd trend of every climate prediction being wrong, Consistently from famines to new Ice Ages. https://cei. Org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions I don't know about my competitor but I myself am not a climate scientist but as I understand it, The rising climate temperature from CO2 produced by humans is very insignificant and requires adjusting climate models in order to get the big numbers but again, I'm no expert. https://www. Thegwpf. Com/putting-climate-change-claims-to-the-test/ This is not an argument for allowing the US and China (the biggest contributors of CO2) to not reduce their footprint. While I'm very suspicious of bills the the Green New Deal, I think it's a good thing to try and be more efficient with how we consume energy. What I'm speaking to is simply about the assertion that humans have a significant influence in the global climate, Which to me seems to give ourselves far too much credit, And that our inaction could result in great dangers which again, Relies entirely on the belief that we have any sort of control over the climate. I know people in the UK, Especially people who lived in the 60s, Who point to the horrendous rain and flooding that is rather uncommon in that part of the world as proof of the urgency of global action but we still haven't even established yet whether this is because of us or not. It certainly isn't the UK's fault since they aren't the huge contributors like China and the US. The ball is in your court HockeyPunk to prove that we are enough of an influence in the climate to even do anything to prevent any future disaster.

  • PRO

    OPINION Just when we thought CNN couldn't get any more...

    CNN Lost Their Mind (Again): Guess How Long Their Climate Change Town Hall Is

    OPINION Just when we thought CNN couldn't get any more pathetic, they prove us wrong...again. The network on Tuesday announced their climate change town hall. The debate, scheduled for Sept. 4th will be seven hours long. Yes, seven hours. The reason? The network wants to give each of the 10 candidates ample time to respond to questions during this "unprecedented prime-time event." Each of the 10 candidates will be given 40 minutes to discuss their plans to address climate change. Hosts Wolf Blitzer, Erin Burnett, Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo and Don...

    • https://www.allsides.com/story/cnn-hosts-7-hour-town-hall-climate-change
  • PRO

    I believe that by declaring war on poverty, lack of...

    Global Poverty, Education, and hunger are greater issues than global warming/ climate change

    Firstly I would like to apologize to my opponent for missing the last round. it was not my intention to miss the debate, simply the fact that time river and my studies in school demand much of its water. Now on to my argument Climate change is an issue. It is definitely going to have major consequences on us in the future if we don't do anything. However, Poverty, education, and hunger are all immediate issues. People are suffering right now and dying right now because of it. I believe that by declaring war on poverty, lack of knowledge, and hunger, the consequences given by climate change will be much reduced if not completely removed Firstly, People who are educated poorly practice bad habits that could be avoided if they were properly educated. for example, the practices of mass chopping of trees, excessive fishing, and actions that produce emissions are performed by those who do not know the full extent of what can be caused in the future if they do not change their ways. Also, educating more people puts more minds to work on solutions to the issues at hand. By putting more effort into allowing people in poverty to obtain the financial recourses to obtain an education, more people will be at work armed with knowledge to help combat climate change. Which leads me to my next point; poverty. Poverty can be defined as "a financial state in which one is not able obtain the basic necessities such as food, water, clothing, etc.". As in your earlier statement, the issues from climate change is a long term issue with plans that don't take effect until 2050, while poverty is causing people to suffer right now. By lessening poverty, we reduce crime rates, increase overall happiness, and make the country more progressive in every way such as services and infrastructure. More jobs, and the economy will roll, allowing people to buy more things, and once again, improve technology. As for convincing me as a debater, You would have to prove to me that Climate change is a more immediate problem, and that solving it would create more of an overall benefit for the human race Once again im sorry for not being present for the previous round and i will do my best to be present for the final round

  • PRO

    The developed world is mostly to blame for climate change

    developed countries have a higher obligation to combat climate change than developing countries

    The developed world is mostly to blame for climate change

  • PRO

    The Camp for Climate Change is a peaceful group of...

    Protests have drawn attention to climate issues

    The Camp for Climate Change is a peaceful group of protestors setting up tents outside the European Climate Exchange (near Liverpool Street Satation). It has recieved a lot of coverage and shows the great public support for Climate Change action. This is the first time climate has been officially on the agenda for an international summit such as this and it is good that this is being highlighted.

  • PRO

    He provides nine links as "mistakes" of climate change...

    Climate denial is unusual in the scientific community

    Misrepresentation of greenhouse concerns Con managed to find recent examples of politicians blaming hurricanes and forest fires on climate change, and has cited how humans are not in danger of asphyxiation, but he has neglected the long-established mainstream concerns of the scientific community. They now deserve review. Atmospheric CO2: CO2 does not deflect visible light, which is what originally makes it to the earth's surface. Upon reaching the earth's surface, visible light is partially absorbed by the earth or water, and partially reflected. The reflection process lowers its energy level, turning it into infrared light. CO2 deflects infrared light. So CO2's reflective properties for the earth are one-directional. Visible light pass downward unperturbed, but upward infrared is deflected downwards / sideways. This effectually increases the amount of light striking the surface of the planet, which at current greenhouse levels protects life from the freezing cold of space, and at future levels threatens to roast life - not to death, but to ecological disequilibrium. Atmospheric Ozone: Unlike most greenhouse gases, ozone deflects ultraviolet light, which is dangerously energetic. While most greenhouse gases keep life on earth warm and cozy, ozone prevents UV rays from directly burning life forms. Climate change from emission of halocarbons and CFCs are thankfully already regulated because of their ability to destroy ozone, but they are one more example of the potential for anthropogenic climate change. Oceanic: The oceans currently absorb atmospheric CO2 and are undergoing a resulting drop in pH. They are also currently absorbing most of the extra heat from the sun, and therefore are experiencing a rise in temperature. Once they heat to a certain point, the oceans are expected to start releasing CO2 back into the atmosphere, which may include massive reserves that have been down there for millions of years. Con points to the seasonal increase in ice, ignoring the seasonal decrease in ice (see logical fallacy: Texas Sharpshooter), and to a non-scientific news article that predicted we would not have ice at this time (see logical fallacy: Fallacy). Fallacious Logic: Anecdotal [26] vs. Statistical Evidence and Misinterpretation of Mistakes [27]: If a physicist miscalculates the speed of the moon, it doesn't disprove the theory of gravitation. If we argued about whether gravity existed, it would be perfectly fair for Con to cite research projects that conclude that Newton's calculus systematically fails at predicting the paths of celestial bodies, but if Con cannot find such research conclusions, substituting with examples where "meteor alarmists" fail to predict the exact path of a meteoroid for five years brings nothing to the discussion. There are two logical reasons for this: Con would be relying on 1) 'anecdotal' evidence that ignores a larger picture, and 2) an absolutist interpretation in which a single mistake disproves an entire theory. This is the precise mechanism Con used in the first round of this debate. He provides nine links as "mistakes" of climate change theorists, but they scarcely dented the scientific data showing the existence of anthropogenic climate change. He additionally provides one link labeled "bad science," one labeled "manipulations" and two links labeled "lies," which are additionally statistically irrelevant and inevitable. Again, following this logic, would Con conclude that chemotherapy is inneffective because it occasionally doesn't work? No, he would know better, because even though the burden of proof relies on the treatment, instances where it demonstrates validity are more relevant than instances where it does not. What changes so much about people's thought process when contemplating climate change? Con's third properly cited source debunks an incorrect 5-year prediction by BBC, and its author, David Rose, writes as if this debunks every climate change theory on earth. Con's sixth properly cited source responds to a New York Times article, because actual climate science holds that increases in global heat can go undetected to atmospheric readings for decades at a time, partially because the oceans absorb heat as well. Strawman Fallacy [28]: Of the seven sources Con cites properly, the first responds to the hurricane correlation but admits to global warming. The second responds to the wildfire correlation but says nothing of global warming. Climate science never relied on hurricanes or wildfires as evidence. Cherrypicking and the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy [29]: Con's third properly cited source neglects the past century, the past decade, and mentions only that the arctic still gets colder at the proper time of year (and is written by a biased reporter whose profile boasts of shooting down "climate alarmists"). The fourth referred only to antarctic sea ice of 2013 and admitted to an average warming of temperatures, stating “If the warming continues, at some point the trend will reverse,” and even cites a long-established global warming theory that the average increase in temperatures creates hotter and colder extremes (Antarctic temperatures count as extremes). The fifth ignores global polar bear numbers and focuses on the "Polar Bear Capitol of the World," and responds only to "Polar Bear worries," distorting the concerns of mainstream climate scientists who already believe global warming will freeze the colder parts of the globe for the next several decades. The sixth responds to a New York Times article that I can only assume is fallacious - I didn't check, because the New York Times is not a scientific journal, nor is Forbes. Con's seventh properly cited source refers to sea level, which depends on melting ice, which I've already mentioned was never scheduled to happen on mass scales for several more decades, because climate change starts by making hot areas hotter and cold areas colder. Appeal to Nature [30]: Polio, the Flu, infant mortality, the bubonic plague, and a host of other issues are all perfectly natural, but for some reason most of society felt they are worth our attention. While I daresay Con would agree, his basic logical processing once again changes when the topic becomes climate change. "For the purpose of this discussion, "Climate Change" is defined as the NATURAL PROCESS by which the Earth warms and cools" and "I don't believe, however, that we should be spending Trillions or even Billions to try to stop "Climate Change", when it appears to be a NORMAL and NATURAL phenomenon" are fallacious appeals to nature by Con. Accusations of Monetary Incentive: Con has stated that climate research is all about grant money, but hasn't defined any government objective to alarm people about climate change. In fact, the greatest political rivals of climate environmentalism are oil and coal. The government's oil lobby is huge, and many Congressmen have financial investments in oil and deny the existence of climate change. American voters complain to the U.S. government when gas prices go up, and the U.S. government has subsidized oil markets for decades. Coal produces the cheapest electricity prices available, and is commonly painted politically as an employment blessing to coal miners. Also, Con's sixth source responds to "New York Times" hysteria, not scientific hysteria, suggesting a rivalry between corporate news agencies. Ambiguity of Semantics [31]: "it has been common practice amongst the "Anthropogenic Global Warming" advocates to use the term "Climate Change" or simply "Global Warming" to confuse the issue of Climate Change." What? Abuse of sources: Misrepresentation of scientific sources provided: I quote from one of Con's Solar Radiation links: "Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a slight cooling trend. However global temperatures have been increasing. Since the sun and climate are going in opposite directions scientists conclude the sun cannot be the cause of recent global warming. The only way to blame the sun for the current rise in temperatures is by cherry picking the data. This is done by showing only past periods when sun and climate move together and ignoring the last few decades when the two are moving in opposite direction." Con no doubt referenced and pasted his Solar Radiation links thinking they would show that Global Warming occurs because of the sun, when in fact they show the opposite. Selection of non-scientific sources: While he cites scientific sources to discuss Solar Radiation in the comments section, and while he pastes several links from nature.com (claiming they "talk about CO2 and how it isn't really a problem"), the sources he effectively summarizes and properly cites are non-scientific. Lack of citation for relevant sources and overcitation for irrelevant sources: "The AVERAGE temperature for the Earth appears to be about 18c." - It's possible Con means negative 18c, which is what the average temperature of the earth would hypothetically be if the greenhouse effect didn't work. Our existence is a demonstration of its relevance. I would visit his provided source to find out what he really means, but none was provided. Con pasted so many URL's that he avoided reading, summarizing or discussing that he didn't have room to provide actual sources for the facts he cited. He provided so many sources that support my end of this argument that by taking the time to explain them, I scarcely have space to add any more. Since it is my belief that debates have character limits to help force debaters to know what they are talking about, I refuse to follow his example and post a chaotic pool of sources in the comments section. 26. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com... 27. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com... 28. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com... 29. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com... 30. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com... 31. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com...

  • CON

    You must have been a public servant at some stage. ......

    Human caused climate change is nonsense

    Okay, Thank you for your argument. I will just quickly go over what you said in Round 5: >>>Well, It looks like you need everything in triplicate or you don't believe it. You must have been a public servant at some stage. Lol Reply: No, I did not work in Government at any point, For your information. >>>National geographic has a story called - Mummified forest found on treeless Arctic Island by Mason Inman. There, Hopefully you will believe me now that you see the information with your own eyes. Reply: I'm afraid I fail to see how this is relevant to the debate. >>>The emailgate incident involving Michael Mann was published in newspapers and was on T. V. News programs. Correct. >>>video - The in depth story behind a climate fraud. I have watched the video, And much of the information is factually incorrect. The hockey stick has been replicated over 3 dozen times by different researchers, Independently. Source: http://environmentalforest. Blogspot. Com/2013/10/enough-hockey-sticks-for-team. Html I will now provide a list of all my points that Akhenaten has not yet refuted. CO2 warming does not saturate. Source: https://www. Skepticalscience. Com/saturated-co2-effect. Htm Burning of fuel has been proven to release CO2. Source: my analysis of the data at https://ourworldindata. Org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions#temperature-increase An increase in CO2 production coincides with the Industrial Revolution. Source: https://ourworldindata. Org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions#temperature-increase, With further sources on this page. CO2 has been shown to increase warming. Source: https://www. Skepticalscience. Com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect. Htm, With further sources on that page. Considering that these strong points remain unrebutted by the opposition, It is clear that I have won this debate. Thank you to Akhenaten for the debate, And thank you to the voters for voting for me.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Human-caused-climate-change-is-nonsense/1/
  • CON

    My opponent stated that "First and foremost, my opponent...

    Manmade global climate change is real and a threat.

    My opponent stated that "First and foremost, my opponent has dropped the issue of the Inconvenient truth documentary" However, my entire case has been in contradiction to the inconvenient truth documentary, as seen when my opponent states "scientific evidence clearly backs up this claim in the documentary an inconvenient truth", I have offered scientific in direct contradiction to the scientific evidence in the movie, thus I have negated my opponent's ENTIRE argument. " As for the Pope's contribution, this shows just how much climate change deniers are within the minority." Seeing as my opponent likes to spew out the term "fallacy", I will spew out the term band wagon fallacy which this argument is, because The bandwagon fallacy is committed by arguments that appeal to the growing popularity of an idea as a reason for accepting it as true. My opponent has admitted to doing this by sating that "climate change deniers are within the minority" In my opponent's (rather short) rebuttal he said that I was cherry picking again (in my first argument) He did show that I chose a time fame that best suits me, but that time frame that best suits me shows a DIRECT INDEPENDENCE between oil consumption and CO2 in the atmosphere. This isn't cherry picking because I didn't just show a single year or two of independence I showed an entire decade of data. Not only this, but in my 3rd graph (on my first argument) I showed how CO2 levels has been extremely higher than we've ever seen in humanity's history (in some cases over 8000 PPM well before the industrial revolution). Once again I showed independence between ATMOSPHERIC CO2 and Fossil Fuel Consumption. My opponent doesn't seem to understand my argument that ATMOSPHERIC CO2 has no direct relationship to fossil fuel consumption, he lists the obvious fact that CO2 is released by the burning of fossil fuels, but shows no explanation to why an entire decade (and more) of data shows no relation between fossil fuel consumption and atmospheric CO2, in fact he drops the point in his second argument when he says he cannot explain why this statistic occurred. My opponent's second rebuttal states "My opponent seems to miss the original claim he/she made. I have shown that the overall trend is upwards. El nino was particularly potent in the spike of the graph." I haven't forgotten any claims that I have made, however my opponent has not shown anything contrary to my original claim, his only counter argument negates his entire argument when my opponent blames the spike in temperature on El Nino, a climate feature unrelated to Global Warming. But again even I admitted there was a slight warming trend since 1978, but if the El Nino spike is removed from the data the trend disappears, so my opponent admits that Global Warming is not the cause of the temperature since 1978. My opponent's third rebuttal states "The overall tend is hotter. Climate can be difficult to predict, just because not everything predicted came true at the correct time, doesn't destroy the overall premise is false." However I have shown 3 different examples of a lack of an overall warming trend. My first example being my 1st chart on my first argument, which shows that GLOBALLY the overall warming trend (that there is) is "statistically insignificant" (since 1978). My second example shows that in the US temperatures are cooling over the last decade. My third example shows that in the North and East Atlantic Ocean, as well as, the British Isles have not experienced any warming. My opponent's fourth rebuttal states "The graph clearly indicates that Co2 and temperature show a strong positive relationship. Yes, there are a few anomalies but that doesn't discredit the theory." My opponent has offered one singular graph showing a relationship between CO2 and temperature. However, I have pointed out that there are events on his graph that shows an independence between the two variables, on top of this, I have offered TWICE as much evidence in the contrary, which my opponent has neglected to mention, showing independence between the two variables even over millions of years. Again I'd like to crystalize my arguments 1: Fossil Fuels do not cause an increase in CO2 emissions, which makes the first part of the IPCC's basic version of global warming invalid My opponent has not other a sufficient refutation for this argument, because this point refutes the definition of Global Warming, it proves that, as we are debating it, Global Warming is not real and thus not a threat. 2: Despite common belief the last few years have not been the warmest on record... My opponent calls this point "cherry picking" however as I have proven, this is not true, and because my opponent has not offered contrary evidence and because of that this point still stands 3: Antarctic Ice was larger than ever in 2012 and 2014, thus the Antarctic Ice caps have not been melting which is thought to be a sideffect of the Global Warming theory My opponent's first reputation was to say that the ice caps would not melt if Global Warming occurred, however I have shown that this is false, then my opponent made a refutation that is not in contradiction to anything that I stated, so this point still stands. 4: There is no direct link between CO2 Emissions and Temperature Increases My opponent has neglected to mention either of my graphs and my opponent's evidence has been refuted making this point still relevant in this debate. Now I'd like to show why I have won this debate My opponent's arguments have been proven false or a fallacy. My opponent's first "point" is the pope's quote which I've shown to be worth no value to this debate, and I have proven it to be a bandwagon fallacy. My opponent's second point is the Inconvenient Truth Movie which posits scientific evidence for the theory of Global Warming, However, my entire case is in direct contradiction to this movie and acts as counter evidence and a rebuttal to the movie. So, because both of my opponent's arguments have been proven wrong, and my opponent's refutations have been untrue and unfounded, and I have proven them to be so, Thus, I have won this debate... Judges must vote in favor of the Con because of the overwhelming amount of evidence presented and the lack of evidence for my opponent. I'd like to thank my opponent for this fun and enlightening debate.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Manmade-global-climate-change-is-real-and-a-threat./4/
  • PRO

    If a scientist takes no stance, they neither support nor...

    Climate Shift

    A suprisingly short response. Framework My opponent has totally ignored the framework thus far, using round 1 for construction instead of acceptance, and round 2 for rebuttals instead of construction. Conduct should be awarded to pro for this reason. Pro's Defence Only the scientists who report opinions have opinions that matter. This is called Voluntary Response Bias. If a scientist takes no stance, they neither support nor deny the existence of climate shift. This point my opponent makes does not meet the burden of proof, and does not fully discredit the scientific consensus. The source my opponent posted does not even fully discredit my argument. Many of my points are left totally unrebbutted, and I forward those points. "The true debate is about the cause of climate change, as we already know it has changed many times before now." This statement is vague and unsourced and isn't a compelling argument. My opponent seeks to rebut my entire argument by a failed discrediting of one source and point. He does not present a compelling case, and his argument does not meet the burden of proof.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Climate-Shift/2/