• PRO

    This is largely due to the biological make up. ......

    Feminism

    I accept this debate. My goal is to provide evidence that feminism is a logical and correct argument. Feminism can be defined as "a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women." [1] In a society where both men and women are required to reproduce life and keep our species existing, it should only be logical to think that both genders should be granted equal rights. Of course there are biological differences that result in certain inequalities, but having different biological make up should not be grounds for unequal rights. Throughout human history, males have maintained a level of dominance over females more often than not. This is largely due to the biological make up. Men have a higher rate of basal metabolism than women, meaning they have a greater capacity to expend energy. Men are also 50% stronger than women in terms of brute strength and the lung capacity for women is 30% less than that of men [2]. All of these biological traits helped lead to men being more dominant in societies where physical strength and ability was the key to survival; when hunting for food and fighting in hand to hand combat were necessary for survival. But the female biology, while very different, should not be viewed as subordinate. Though a female body generally posses less brute force than a male, it serves other functions that males cannot; functions necessary for the continuation of our species. Thus it should be logical that both sexes deserve to have equal rights in a society, even if they serve different roles at times. Also, as our societies continue to experience technological advancements in various fields, certain factors that used to cause a greater division between the sexes, such as child birth, are becoming less significant. As we understand more about pregnancy and child birth, the risks involved with child birth have decreased and doctors understand far more about what the female body goes through during the process, so they are far more capable of aiding in the recovery following birth than in the past [3]. This all boils down to the fact that equal rights for the sexes is the logical way. This does not mean that we should not acknowledge or celebrate the differences between the sexes, but in terms of political, economic, social and cultural rights, both sexes should be on equal footing, since both sexes are required for us to continue existing on this planet. Finally, I just want to clarify that we are dealing with Feminism here, which is as I defined in my opening statement, and not radical feminism. Many see feminism as a group of man-hating women who want to take the power away from men and have the women as the dominant group. "Radical feminism aims to challenge and overthrow patriarchy by opposing standard gender roles and oppression of women and calls for a radical reordering of society" [4]. Too often people think of this when they think of feminism, but such is not the case in the same sense that Muslim extremists who commit international acts of terror do not represent the entirety of the Islamic faith. The bottom line is that females should have every right to vote, they should be paid based on their professional skills and they should be given equal opportunity to work a job, so long as they are qualified to do so. I believe that equality in gender rights is the logical and correct path. I await my opponent's opening arguments. Thank you. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org... [2]http://www.drjamesdobson.org... [3]http://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu... [4]http://en.wikipedia.org...

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/3/
  • CON

    But the way the organization itself belittles the male...

    Feminism.

    But that is still promoting FEMALES as you said. It in no way promotes men. It simply belittles men in the eyes of the public. I agree that women are raped and sexually assulted by men but that has really nothing to do with the feminism I am speaking of. That is where feminism has come. It started as a civil rights movement in the 20s when women gained the right to vote. It has since pushed for women's rights which is fine. But the way the organization itself belittles the male population is disgusting. It has turned from a civil rights movement to a full blown rape awareness campaing. Rape has nothing to do with the rights of women. Rape is simply an action performed by an ignorant human. Women can rape too. Although not as common, it has happened and cases have been dismissed involving a man being raped. It is very clear that feminism does have a gender and that gender is female. It may have male supporters but it is a organization that promotes women and women only.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism./1/
  • CON

    Women can now vote. ... I agree that radical feminism is...

    Feminism

    First off, thank you very much for accepting my argument. Now, to feminism, women often claim that they are given unequal rights, when in the past this is proven, yes. But, throughout time women have received every right that a man has. Women can now join the army. Women can now become president. Women can now vote. The list goes on for a very long time. So, in 1st world countries such as the USA, there should be no such thing as a feminist. The same can not be said for 3rd world countries, where women rights have not been established and women often have to be near a man to go anywhere in the city. However we still find feminists in 1st world countries. In fact, I dare to say that men are the ones who are the subordinate, because in a war, which gender is forced to go because of the deaths of volunteers? Men. Which gender still complains that they are given unequal rights? Women. I agree that radical feminism is a different debate altogether, but normal feminism itself is an extremely incorrect argument.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/3/
  • CON

    Next I would like to address the issue of domestic...

    Feminism

    Nobody has ever had the courage to actually debate this with me without forfeiting or using ad-homenim. Anyways, here's my argument: Modern feminism is harmful for many reasons. The first hint at this is the prefix "Fem", or about women. Not about men, because feminism doesn't care about inequality towards men. Now, I would like to address the issue of the "wage gap". The wage gap of 77% was a statistic measured many years ago. This is just assuming this statistic is true, which I don't think it is. Next I would like to address the issue of domestic violence. Is domestic violence against women a problem? Yes. Of course it is. However, statistics have pointed out that close to 40% of domestic violence victims are men. Little to no attention has been given to this issue Finally, I would like to address body image. Are women pressured to stay thin? As with domestic violence, yes. They are. But, again, so are men. If anyone has read this far, thank you. I hope that someone will debate with me to help me shed light on I hope that someone will debate with me to help me shed light on feminism.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/7/
  • CON

    Next I would like to address the issue of domestic...

    Feminism

    Modern feminism is harmful for many reasons. The first hint at this is the prefix "Fem", or about women. Not about men, because feminism doesn't care about inequality towards men. Now, I would like to address the issue of the "wage gap". The wage gap of 77% was a statistic measured many years ago. This is just assuming this statistic is true, which I don't think it is. Next I would like to address the issue of domestic violence. Is domestic violence against women a problem? Yes. Of course it is. However, statistics have pointed out that close to 40% of domestic violence victims are men. Little to no attention has been given to this issue Finally, I would like to address body image. Are women pressured to stay thin? As with domestic violence, yes. They are. But, again, so are men. If anyone has read this far, thank you. I hope that someone will debate with me to help me shed light on feminism.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/6/
  • PRO

    However, if a man wishes to divorce his wife, he simply...

    Feminism

    From the time the Constitution was signed in 1776 to today, I'm pretty sure everyone can all agree that feminism has caused some major changes in American history. Because of feminism, women have gone from having no place in the workforce to complete legal equality to men. Just a century ago, women could not even vote. Look at us now. It is possible that a woman will be the President of the United States in just a few short months. Despite what your opinion of Hillary Clinton is, you must admit this could be a major step for American history. Unfortunately though, women in certain other countries do not have equality to their male counterparts. Many middle eastern countries with Sharia-based laws are no where near the gender equality level of America. In some regards to marriage, women have much less of a say on who they can and cannot marry than men. Sharia law basically restricts a Muslim woman from marrying a non-Muslim man. This does not apply to Muslim men. Under Sharia law, if a women wants a divorce from her husband, his consent is required. However, if a man wishes to divorce his wife, he simply has to say "talaq" (I divorce you) three times. Above all else, in my opinion, one of the most sickening parts of Sharia law has to do with restrictions on a woman who has been sexually assaulted. If a man rapes a woman, under Sharia law, she could be forced to marry him. All these reasons and many more are why feminism is still needed today. It may not be needed to enforce legal equality in America anymore, but it is so desperately needed in the middle eastern countries that follow Sharia law. Everyday women are dying and being forced to do things because of gender inequality. They need feminism more than anything else.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/20/
  • CON

    I wish the best of luck to whoever accepts this...

    Feminism

    I personally think that feminism is a very controversial topic in many cultures as they all have their own way of viewing women, treating them, and what obligations they have. In the American culture, feminists are very active and there's not day that passes by where I don't read an article supporting feminism and many have very good points supporting their argument but others are just biased off of personal beliefs, impartial information, and experiences that many may see from different points of view. My opponent does not have to defend the entire topic of feminism, but basically why feminism is vital in a community, or whatever feminist topic they choose as long as its an important one whose impact on society effects many greatly. I wish the best of luck to whoever accepts this challenge, but first I need to set some rules so that everything can be as neat as possible: - If you decide to state a claim, such as one that is based off a study made or an event that occurred, etc, your claim must be supported with all links to them BELOW YOUR ARGUMENT! If not, then I will not consider you a worthy opponent and I will forfeit the rounds. - NO TROLLING! I hope that whoever accepts this challenge will be mature enough to give and argument without having to act like a child and use bad arguments. Also, no cursing unless your stating a quote, and because it is very unprofessional to do so. - Plagiarism will not be tolerated at all whatsoever, like it is in most arguments or schoolwork, etc. I will know if you did and if you do so, then I will forfeit the debate. I will not waste my time with someone who isn't original. Anyways now that all necessary has been stated, I will once again wish the best of luck against my opponent.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/20/
  • CON

    I'm new here, so I have no clue if this is the place to...

    Feminism

    I'm new here, so I have no clue if this is the place to say this or not. So I'm just going to wing it. You sir, have changed my mind. I concede this debate. I would however, like to point out, that he is correct in saying that I just don't like feminism. I do agree with feminist theory, and I can get behind many of the feminist points. However, I do not feel that this is truly what the feminist community holds to. In my experience, I have found that much of feminism has been about the "patriarchy" (I wont get into that) and seems to paint men as evil, and the reason behind the evil in our society. While it could easily be said that this has all been from the extremists, I have yet to run into a feminist who isn't an "extremist." Before I get incredibly off topic, I would like to thank my former adversary for breaking down feminism without an argument riddled with fallacies. That was the first time I've truly heard a legitimate counter argument to my points that wasn't riddled with red herrings, emotional appeal, straw men, and just overall ridiculous claims. I still do not agree with feminism, simply because I believe that instead of individual groups that focus on the rights of a certain gender, race, nationality, ect... we would be much stronger if we all united and fought for all human rights, where ever we are needed. I thank you Mikal for educating me.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Feminism/2/