• PRO

    Teens and kids should have to wear the same thing in...

    Teens and kids should wear school uniforms

    Teens and kids should have to wear the same thing in school school might be for making friends but its supposed to be for learning discipline and manners and learning how to get a job with the things you learned having uniforms takes focus off of what your wearing and puts focus on whats really important...doing your school work so i think uniforms should be a law in schools mostly the uniform black blazer and red tie i think you should agree with me that school is for learning and not focusing on other things America could be one of the top smartest country's again if we learned our manners and focused more on school.

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  • CON

    kids should not be forced to wear uniforms!! ... they...

    school uniforms

    kids should not be forced to wear uniforms!! they are'nt officers!!

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  • PRO

    The reasons why we shouldn't have school uniforms are the...

    School uniforms should be banned.

    The reasons why we shouldn't have school uniforms are the cost doesn't meet the wadges of families trying to make ends meet.Secondly it doesn't diminish bulling.How is this possible let me explain say I have a blue tie and then I give my opponent the same tie sure the ties are the same but we both look different in the same looking ties.Basically my point is everyone can wear the same clothing but how the look in that clothing is an entirely different story.Also con stated on google there are 1 million people don't care about creativity or art that is not alot there are seven billion people world wide and when viewed from that scale that small compared to seven billion. REBUTTAL#1 CONTENTION 1: BULLYING PREVENTION is illogical because I could had out a billion people the same suit and i promise you all of them will look different sure IT IS THE SAME UNIFORM but the people wearing them will look different. REBUTTAL#2 Contention 3: Restricts inapropriate clothing this one is also illogical sure uniforms restrict bad or improper clothing but the one thing is that WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND COMES TO SCHOOL WITH A BIKINI!!!!!We are humans no nianderthals we know right and wrong.We have proper sense.Cons statement is possibly a derogatory slur calling our species inferior and dumb.And if that's not what it meant then what dos it mean we have common sense to dress correct.We have parents that tell us not to wear a bikini to school or wait they don't tell us that why because we have enough sense to correctley dress.

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  • CON

    Shall we, in upholding the constitution re-start slavery?...

    School Uniforms Shouldn't Be Required

    I thank my opponent for his reply. I shall be tackling his arguments the way they are numbered. 1. I believe my opponent lives on extremes, he fails to realize that these children can choose what to wear when they are at home, or when they go to parties. On weekends and in summer vacations, it is quite clear that these children do get the training for choosing clothes. Not to mention who needs training in looking for what to wear? The school however has the duty to teach them discipline and how they have to dress in most of their future jobs. In such it is clear that there is a greater productivity in asking children to wear uniforms. My opponent's arguments regarding how they might not learn to wear different clothes does not stand. 2. Why is my opponent infatuated with the United States of America and its constitution? Does he realize the constitution is pro slavery? Shall we, in upholding the constitution re-start slavery? I find that this is at best an appeal to authority. Also I once more reiterate that this resolution is not bound to the United States, the example of one country is not enough. My opponent realizes that there are other ways to express oneself, by affirming this he pseudo-concedes. The reason for this is that because there are other ways the right to expression is not being harmed, since an individual does grow out of these young people, uniforms do not necessitate any bad affect. As I already said uniforms actually create unity (something my opponent conceded to) and help individuality foster in such a way that two different individuals can connect better. Surely this is better than an absolute anarchy of personalities which are 100% apart. 3. This link still does not work. 4. Another link that still does not work. My analogy with the military works because the military is one of the most disciplined institutions, the uniform helps. Also the uniform is an instant recognizability, the military takes pride in wearing their colors as do many students. If one is part of one of the best schools, or if one got into Oxford they would happily wear the insignia. Uniforms create a sense of belonging. Also you are the one who brought in Einstein in the first place... 5. You mean to tell me that it is cheaper for poor families to spend 72$ each month rather than spend a bit out of their savings or save enough so that they have to spend 150$ only once. These clothes actually even run more than a year where a lot of people wear these clothes for even two years, or three. Overall I am sure the voters are intelligent enough to realize that your point about money does not stand. Also taxes may be applicable in some countries, although in most they are quite little in amount. One must also pay taxes when buying normal clothes though. 6. Your little one way is important for 160,000 children (see source above). I think that's a big number, considering this is only of the US, add up the other countries and you have a sizeable number. You see we try to stop bullying from every perspective possible. Voters my opponent must show that it is absolutely necessary for school uniforms to be abolished, this he does not so and therefore the resolution is defeated. Merci, Ajab

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  • CON

    They limit rights Yes the good old constitution the...

    Public School Students should wear School Uniforms

    They limit rights Yes the good old constitution the foundation of america and this debate Some opponents claim that uniforms are not a fix-all for the problems that plague schools, but instead, violate a student's right to express themselves, as guaranteed by the First Amendment. In a school in california, 73% of the students claim that their first ammendment rights were violated. After they signed a pettition the school went back to the old ways. The case Tinker v. Des Moines decided that students in a public school have a constitutional right to use their clothing, in this case black armbands, to express their opinions on controversial topics http://everydaylife.globalpost.com...

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  • PRO

    fashion shows that students do..."WHAT? ... Schools...

    School Uniforms Should not be Required

    You have yet to cite any sources at all, and you have lots of spelling and grammar errors. And what are the "other avenues that students can productively express themselves creatively during school time"? "Equalize students....", "we can all learn & we can all be something in life regardless of our finances"... Didn't you already state that in the first round? Oh well. "fashion shows that students do..."WHAT? I've never seen any "fashion shows that students do"!! Albert and Stephen are bad examples. Arguably they're not very creative. They're just insanely intelligent. " prepares them for an adult world..." Well most jobs don't require uniforms. "Dress code...." Although uniforms can deduce the stress on dress codes, and completely removes the need for it, there's still my argument about emblems. That argument still stands. Schools cannot force people to wear a message, whether it's controversial or not.

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  • CON

    Resolved: Mandatory School Uniforms are a violation of...

    Mandatory School Uniforms are a violation of free expression

    Upon seeing a debate with this argument as a point closed, my aspirations were crushed to such a degree that I decided I would recreate this debate myself and open it up once again to the populace. Resolved: Mandatory School Uniforms are a violation of free expression Some definitions are in order: Mandatory: Necessary, compulsory School Uniforms: Uniforms worn by students that are unique to the school Violation: to harm, go against Free expression: the right to behave and present ourselves as we see fit The first round will be a presentation of arguments from my opponent. He may choose at that point if he wants to use the last round for arguments or a "thanks for playing" message to myself and you, the audience. Regardless of whether he argues in the final round or not, there shall be no new arguments made there. I hope for an enlightening discussion.

  • PRO

    Well thats what it sounds like from your above statement...

    School Uniforms benefit schools

    "It helps studeents express themselves and be more creative." Yeah but you're talking about finding a look. "Clothes are an important way that kids express themselves in a relatively harmless way. When you take this away, kids may express themselves in a more negative way." So you are of the belief that kids expressing themselves with clothing will take from the other ways in which they could express themselves. Well thats what it sounds like from your above statement anyway. So by your logic allowing students to wear their own clothes would take from their expressing themselves and being creative in subjects like art, english and music. "But students need two sets of clothes, school clothes and regular clothes, making the ost much more." I'll give you that, but its a small price to pay to free up all that creativity that could be put to a better use than finding a look, isn't it? And why doesn't the student just buy the uniform if hes that stuck for money. There is no huge difference in the prices you found for us seeing as you left out the belt to go with the jeans and t-shirt. Your argument is based on the fact that someone might only be able to afford one pair of clothes but you haven't put forward any argument for why the jeans and t-shirt are a necessity. "Well thats what it sounds like from your above statement anyway. So by your logic allowing students to wear their own clothes would take from their expressing themselves and being creative in subjects like art, english and music. "But students need two sets of clothes, school clothes and regular clothes, making the ost much more." I'll give you that, but its a small price to pay to free up all that creativity that could be put to a better use than finding a look, isn't it? And why doesn't the student just buy the uniform if hes that stuck for money. There is no huge difference in the prices you found for us seeing as you left out the belt to go with the jeans and t-shirt. Your argument is based on the fact that someone might only be able to afford one pair of clothes but you haven't put forward any argument for why the jeans and t-shirt are a necessity. "So by your logic allowing students to wear their own clothes would take from their expressing themselves and being creative in subjects like art, english and music. "But students need two sets of clothes, school clothes and regular clothes, making the ost much more." I'll give you that, but its a small price to pay to free up all that creativity that could be put to a better use than finding a look, isn't it? And why doesn't the student just buy the uniform if hes that stuck for money. There is no huge difference in the prices you found for us seeing as you left out the belt to go with the jeans and t-shirt. Your argument is based on the fact that someone might only be able to afford one pair of clothes but you haven't put forward any argument for why the jeans and t-shirt are a necessity. "Uniforms get tattered" Yes they do, but every student would be wearing the uniform to school every day. Whereas in a school where uniforms are not required a student who wore the same clothes to school every day would definitely be in the minority. In this way it would spare them embarassment. "and cost more to replace than regular clothes." The difference in cost is tiny if you don't include the belt. If the student kept his/her eyes on the floor on the way to the shop to replace the clothes, he/she would probably make up the difference. "It teaches kids to judge people based on how they look. That they all have too look the same in order to be equal." People in suits are generally a lot safer to approach that crack addicts. "Polo shirts show off a girl'surves, and can be very sexy." http://i68.photobucket.com... You'll be hard put to find a polo shirt that comes close to even being half as distracting as that. You probably cant even remember what we were debating after looking at that picture. "Outsiders always stand out, they are adults. Also, school ID's fix this probem easily." Outsiders have to be adults? "Also, school ID's fix this probem easily." How much are the poor kids going to have to pay to get their ID's printed?

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  • CON

    A 2005 study, on the other hand, indicates that in some...

    uniforms

    I thank my opponent for posting his/her argument. Reasons why uniforms are good Because http://www.greatschools.org... so. "A 2005 study, on the other hand, indicates that in some Ohio high schools uniforms may have improved graduation and attendance rates" [1] Come on, the website is called GREAT SCHOOLS. Great schools are great for a reason, and they think uniforms are good. I think they are too. Now to my oppenent's argument. "uniforms are not good for kids because the kids cant express themselves in the way they want to" I can express myself perfectly with or without a uniform. "Uniforms do not look nice" When I saw this, I was like... Say Wwhhaaat? (with an accent on the Wh like when people say howite instead of white so conjugated, this would be huwat) I truly belive... that that black belt over there is one of the nicest belts created by mankind. The shoes also look nice. They give people better hops which will boost their self confidence. And the shirt? It is always good because if the person somehow looses his/her memory, they will know what "A 2005 study, on the other hand, indicates that in some Ohio high schools uniforms may have improved graduation and attendance rates" [1] Come on, the website is called GREAT SCHOOLS. Great schools are great for a reason, and they think uniforms are good. I think they are too. Now to my oppenent's argument. "uniforms are not good for kids because the kids cant express themselves in the way they want to" I can express myself perfectly with or without a uniform. "Uniforms do not look nice" When I saw this, I was like... Say Wwhhaaat? (with an accent on the Wh like when people say howite instead of white so conjugated, this would be huwat) I truly belive... that that black belt over there is one of the nicest belts created by mankind. The shoes also look nice. They give people better hops which will boost their self confidence. And the shirt? It is always good because if the person somehow looses his/her memory, they will know what school they are in. Khaki pants are always good because if they are being chased by robbers they can hide and will blend in. Overall, school uniforms are great.

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  • PRO

    Let these chains break and these shackles ripped off I...

    School uniforms should be banned.

    Let these chains break and these shackles ripped off I have no regard for you.You are not a judge nor a person.You are a self centered brain scattered twit.You do not dictate this debate.Let these chains be broken school uniforms should be abolished because it is not fitting in the eyes of a few it is not liked by some.What are we going to do kill the people who do not like uniforms.Or maybe just send a hitman to them.Of course not you may like a uniform and others may not you cannot ignore the fact that there are some people who do not like uniforms.The truth is we all have a creative spirit we have just have forgotten it.We all have something to express but uniforms are just average confining you to wear one suit or dress everyday.Come on everyone let us understand as an evolutionary era we all must evolve from just one type of clothing.Voters please note my opponent is a hypocrite giving rules only involving me.Now that is hypocrisy like she is a judge.You know Temmo I finally now what bop means Bumptious Obnoxious prick and that exactly what you are.I do not care about you defending your friend his account is closed there is nothing you can do.FYI Temmo is a twit Note(Teemo shut it I have no care for your comments)

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