• CON

    Thus, school uniforms do not remove any such freedom of...

    School Uniforms Should Not Be Required in Schools

    1)Rebuttal: Argument 1: "School uniforms do not help students an any way at all." My opponent has stated that "School uniforms do not help students an any way at all." however; he later goes on to say, "Yes, by having everyone dress the same it may reduce some bullying"" This indicates that my opponent is slightly contradictive, no fault of his own. Argument 2: Expression of one"s true self: My opponent has stated that in order to express one"s self, you must have the right to dress how one might feel; however, he also stated that: "most common reason people get bullied is their body size or how they act." This alludes to my statement of, "As my opponent has stated, school uniforms do remove the expression threw clothes; however, children find many other forms of expression: threw gestures, action, and voice." Thus, school uniforms do not remove any such freedom of expression that children cannot replace by some other form of articulation. Argument 3: Identification: My opponent has brought up a very valid point: "In the events of natural disasters or emergencies, such as earthquakes, tornadoes, fires or terrorist attacks, it would be really hard for parents to identify their child from the midst of a milieu of similarly clothed children." In the event of such an event, parents would be incapable of coming to the aid of their child. It is up to the teachers, or administration, (the adult in charge) to provide the necessary amount of super-vision to insure the children"s safety. Often times parents are at work so would be incapable of materializing at the scene of the disaster, to help their child any way, thus my opponent"s argument is rendered invalid. Argument 4: "And kids that are forced to wear Argument 3: Identification: My opponent has brought up a very valid point: "In the events of natural disasters or emergencies, such as earthquakes, tornadoes, fires or terrorist attacks, it would be really hard for parents to identify their child from the midst of a milieu of similarly clothed children." In the event of such an event, parents would be incapable of coming to the aid of their child. It is up to the teachers, or administration, (the adult in charge) to provide the necessary amount of super-vision to insure the children"s safety. Often times parents are at work so would be incapable of materializing at the scene of the disaster, to help their child any way, thus my opponent"s argument is rendered invalid. Argument 4: "And kids that are forced to wear uniforms will just be bullied by kids in other schools for having to wear uniforms." If a doctrine of mandatory school uniforms for all public schools was enforced, then this would not be an issue"all students would be warning them, besides those who are home-schooled; thus, this would not be an issue. Rebuttal-over "You said that $30-40 isn't that much. But for some families that is just way too much money. And we are entitled to a free education. They can still have dress codes because those do well, but telling students exactly what to wear is just too far." I did state that $30-40 really would be a minimal impact, compared to the amount of money that students in "free, public education" currently have to pay. As a senior in high school, taking three advance placement courses, and participating in three clubs, I have already had to pay $800.00 in fees. In addition, my little sister who is a freshman, and is taking no honors or advance placement classes but is partaking in a sport, has already had to pay $500.00 in fees. Compared to $1300, thirty to forty dollars is insignificant. My mother makes less than $30000 per year, so I can understand the argument of "That could be just too much on some people." It is rare in my house hold that we are able to have meals every night, but even when my sister had to wear uniforms for her school, we managed. As for the second half of your statement, what is the difference between a dress code and school uniforms? The dress code is a doctrine that dictates exactly what you can ware, by outlining parameters of what you may not ware"hats, belts, flip-flops, etc. are all examples of things that have made the list, here in the Washoe county of Nevada. School uniforms provide several advantages"no longer will students have to worry about whether or not their clothing will be confiscated by the school because of indecent or "violation of the dress code," protection of their skin in scientific environments will be insured"lack of open-toed shoes, long pants to provide against acid burns to legs, etc."protection during physical education, the list goes on. Where it is true to a degree that cleaks will still exist no matter if there are uniforms or not, the effect of bullying can still be decreased when considering the aspect of clothing. My opponent has stated that bullying is bad, but it is ok"people often times live, learn, and cope"but what about those who have not "lived," or "learned?" Bullying starts in schools, and spreads to work places. If one is bullied, and survives, that person often times caries resentment on threw life, returning the bullying favor to those around them. The original bully continues to do so, and no one learns. For some key examples of when bullying went too far, and could have been avoided"we only need to look to Amanda Todd, or the incident at Virginia tech. Due to lack of time, further arguments will come in round 3. Thank you.

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  • PRO

    Children can then be bullied for being different, which...

    School uniforms create a sense of equality

    School catchment areas are diverse and in private schools, some children are there on a scholarship. So, without uniforms there are clear indicators of wealth between what children wear. This makes poorer children stand out, (or even possibly the reverse). Children can then be bullied for being different, which diminishes a child's enjoyment of school. A study in New York has shown that 84% of parents think uniforms promote equality, and 89% of guidance counselors think uniforms help teach children to be more accepting of others who are less fortunate[3]. This perception among parents will help create the same perception among their children. This is also likely to translate to the teachers who will therefore treat their pupils more equally. improve this  

  • PRO

    If a school has a uniform, parents are expected to buy...

    School uniforms are often expensive

    If a school has a uniform, parents are expected to buy it, and then buy a new one every time their child outgrows the last. This can be expensive. It has been reported that parents in South Africa[10], Australia[11], and the U.K[12]. have to pay a lot of money for their children's school uniforms, and it is probably the same in other countries too.  

  • PRO

    From Grade school through HS, uniforms were the norm....

    School Uniforms – Yes

    From Grade school through HS, uniforms were the norm. Everyone in school was equal. Rich, Poor, Handicap, etc. – everyone is equal. Today, a pair of $300 nike’s, cellphone and a Chrysler 300 with chrome rims seperate your from the pack. Why? What does that teach? What did the child learn? As a parent, are you succeeding by enabling?

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  • CON

    Students should be free to wear whatever they choose,...

    High school students should wear uniforms

    Prove that it is obvious that students should wear uniforms in schools. Students should be free to wear whatever they choose, aside from certain items such as clothes with inappropriate speech. School uniforms restrain the students' freedom of expression and create an environment of conformity. You might argue that school uniforms contribute to order in a school, but I don't think it's obvious that uniforms should be implemented in schools.

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  • PRO

    School Uniforms should be required in all education...

    School Uniforms Shouldn't be Required.

    School Uniforms should be required in all education institutions for the following reasons: i) They bring unity and uniformity within the school community ii) They destroy social barriers and puts everyone on an equal paying field in terms of clothing iii) They hide the poor backgrounds of certain students which protects them from ridicule. iv) Since certain social barriers have been destroyed. This less distractions from study and other scholarly duties.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms-Shouldnt-be-Required./1/
  • CON

    Sometimes it may not even be her fault if it happened by...

    School Uniforms Are Good

    Okay, I get what you mean when you say that poorer students may be bullied. Yes, it does happen. But with the amount spent on one set of the school uniform, you can buy about 10-15 new clothes(cheap ones of course). So if a student does ruin her uniform, she would not have enough money to get a new one and people would tease her for being poor. Sometimes it may not even be her fault if it happened by accident. Whereas if she were to ruin one of her fifteen clothes, she would still have another one she could use. As for the clothes that children wear, there could be certain rules that state that the students cannot wear clothes that are too fancy or any jewellery. This would help with the bullying. And wearing clothes that they do not feel comfortable in can also lead to the children losing confidence in themselves. They may feel that other students look better than them in the uniform and may feel inferior. If they are not comfortable with what they are wearing, how can they possibly be comfortable in their environment learning? Second, you said that Whereas if she were to ruin one of her fifteen clothes, she would still have another one she could use. As for the clothes that children wear, there could be certain rules that state that the students cannot wear clothes that are too fancy or any jewellery. This would help with the bullying. And wearing clothes that they do not feel comfortable in can also lead to the children losing confidence in themselves. They may feel that other students look better than them in the uniform and may feel inferior. If they are not comfortable with what they are wearing, how can they possibly be comfortable in their environment learning? Second, you said that uniforms will not be a burden for the parents. That is not necessarily true. As stated above, a uniform can be very, very expensive in certain countries. They would be better off buying more clothes. They can also use that for their everyday life so wearing normal clothes will reduce the total amount of money spent on clothes. And as I said before, the school can have rules that state students cannot wear certain kinds of clothing. They could also make clear that breaking the rules can lead to severe consequences e.g. Suspension or some other worse punishment. You mentioned that school uniforms improve self-esteem and self-respect. Won't students feel the same way wearing their own clothes? They would probably feel better in their own clothes in fact. They would feel good about what they are wearing because they are used to wearing it. And what if their uniform is dirtied by another student? School is not exactly one of the most clean or dirt-free environment. You can't ask the student herself to be responsible and not expect anyone else to do it by accident or on purpose. The student wouldn't even be able to ask the culprit to compensate for her ruined uniform if she didn't know who the person was. And not all students are very responsible. If they were already the reckless and wild type, they would not care about their behaviour just because they were in their school uniform. I agree with you on the field trip point but the school could just hand out badges or other cheap things such as tags that could help others identify the students. Actually, some schools are actually quite strict about their dress codes and don't allow students to wear anything other than what is stated they have to wear. And this may be hard for students who have always wanted to go to a certain school but have religious beliefs which interfere with the dress code. School uniforms can increase the expenditure on clothes. Students would be better off buying more less cheap clothes. Uniforms are quite hard to replace because of their high prices. If one was to grow out of his uniform, it would be quite difficult to get a new one, especially if he comes from a poorer family. Clothes are a way for students to express themselves. It is a way for students to show others their personality and their style. Instead of forcing children to be the same, schools should educate students on how being different can be good and how working together despite their differences can be beneficial. This would reduce bullying and would allow students to understand their peers better.

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  • PRO

    When mentioning Long beach, California, I wasn't...

    School Uniforms

    When mentioning Long beach, California, I wasn't contrasting it from other states. I was simply explaining the impact that school uniforms potentially had on a neighborhood. Secondly, abuse and discipline are two different things. Although some people may argue that it is a form of discipline, abuse does not necessarily correspond with it. As you stated, "depression and PTSD are some of the long term effects when discipline becomes abuse", shows that abuse is the reason of the depression and not the discipline itself. Ask yourself, would you discipline your children? Or would you let them tell you what they want to wear because their friends are all wearing it. If you think about it they wear a uniform whether it's identical or not.

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  • PRO

    there I agree with you, my friend, that clothes help to...

    school uniforms should be mandatory

    "schools should be schools and not fashion shows!" there I agree with you, my friend, that clothes help to express but somewhere down there students become intimated by the fact of dressing up well for the there I agree with you, my friend, that clothes help to express but somewhere down there students become intimated by the fact of dressing up well for the school. rather uniforms help students to concentrate more on studies rather than on clothes, it creates a uniformity and a discipline in the school campus. also it saves time in a way children don't have to think much.

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  • PRO

    You are only half correct. It is my evil twin brother who...

    TROLL DEBATE: School Uniforms Should Not Be Required

    >:) You are only half correct. It is my evil twin brother who is the evil scientist. However, it must be noted no person wearing a school uniform is happy. Look at all those federal law cases: a boy complaining about his school emblem, a parent complaining about the school emblem--again, and other parents complaining about school uniform prices. Only administrators agree that school uniforms are good. But again, this is only part of his malicious plot--he makes people think that there are two sides to the school uniform, but in reality, school uniforms are terrible. I, the genius lawyer extremely versatile in the constitution, encourage you all to vote the USA government to not require school uniforms before he takes over the world. But again, he has a plan b, which he will tell no one... However, he does give a hint about it: it involves turning the school uniforms alive as demonstrated in this photo: A victim of the genius scientist's prototype. No one knows what happened to him. We must ban school uniforms before he can do plan a, and what's worse, his plan B!! (which is actually way more destructive than plan a.

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