• PRO

    I hate uniforms, I cant express myself at school so I...

    school uniforms should be banned

    I hate uniforms, I cant express myself at school so I believe they should be banned

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  • CON

    My husband and I and are the parents of three wonderful...

    School uniforms should be banned.

    REMINDER! Next round, you are not permitted to write any new argument, or post anything new. You are only permitted to write "thanks for the debate". This allows us to have an equal amount of rounds to debate. Breaking this rule shall result in a 7 point deduction. Do not ask for the rule to be revoked if you break it, because you have been warned. REBUTTALS Before beggining, I would like to point something out. Pro only states down sides of uniforms. This itself is not good enough to state a valid reason to ban them. For example, pizza can be unhealthy, does that meen we should ban pizza? No! Just because it has downsides doesn't mean it should be banned. "The reasons why we shouldn't have school uniforms are the cost doesn't meet the wadges of families trying to make ends meet." The thing is, with uniforms you aren't immediatly required to pay. You can pay for them at any given time in the year. So, it does meet the wages of these families, and in fact as proven earlier, they cost much less than the average amount you would pay for your child's clothing. "Secondly it doesn't diminish bulling.How is this possible let me explain say I have a blue tie and then I give my opponent the same tie sure the ties are the same but we both look different in the same looking ties.Basically my point is everyone can wear the same clothing but how the look in that clothing is an entirely different story." Once again, you fail to properly read my argument. I stated that it diminishes bullying. This occurs because sometimes children get bullied because their clothing isn't "cool". Now with uniforms, no one has cool clothes, so people can't get bullied for their clothing, regardless of how they look in it. So, even though bullying still occurs, it is at least slightly diminished. Also, this still isn't a valid reason to which why we should ban uniforms. "Also con stated on google there are 1 million people don't care about creativity or art that is not alot there are seven billion people world wide and when viewed from that scale that small compared to seven billion." Perhaps there are various who care, but there are definitly more who don't care. First of all, a 7th of the population is a huge number. Second of all, more than half of the world is in poverty. They have no time to care about creativity. And so, more people don't care about creativity than those who do. "BULLYING PREVENTION is illogical because I could had out a billion people the same suit and i promise you all of them will look different sure IT IS THE SAME UNIFORM but the people wearing them will look different." Refer to previous rebuttal. "Restricts inapropriate clothing this one is also illogical sure uniforms restrict bad or improper clothing but the one thing is that WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND COMES TO SCHOOL WITH A BIKINI!!!!!We are humans no nianderthals we know right and wrong.We have proper sense.Cons statement is possibly a derogatory slur calling our species inferior and dumb.And if that's not what it meant then what dos it mean we have common sense to dress correct.We have parents that tell us not to wear a bikini to school or wait they don't tell us that why because we have enough sense to correctley dress." This is where you are wrong. Since this is a long contention, I shall have a long rebuttal. First of all, regardless if it's a bikini or mini skirt, it is innapropriate. Also, regardless of proper sense, people still wear innapropriat clothing to school. I did not imply our species is dumb, I am implying we make mistakes. And your comment about parents, you honestly have no idea about children and parents in general. First of all, children are very smart, they can easily sneak inapropriate clothing in their bags and change at school. In doing so, parents can't stop them. Here is a little story I found of a fellow parent who experianced I similar dilema. "My husband and I and are the parents of three wonderful children, but we've been having some issues lately with our 15 year old, our middle child. She continues to wear skirts that are much too short for her, including to school" "We both have to leave for work early in the morning and rely on our kids to get ready to go to school by themselves in the mornings, and we are unable to verify our children's attire; in fact, we first found out our daughter was wearing miniskirts was when the school called to tell us. " "I explained to her that when I was growing up, we were in a strict religious community where modesty was a big deal and we were expected to wear skirts that were almost ankle length" [1] As you can now see, people have jobs. They don't always have time to check on their kids. Also, you can now see kids are good at sneaking things, their parents only found out after the school called them! You also notice that the lady writing this article somewhat had a uniform aswell, and she learned a variety of lessons in doing so, such as respect and modesty.Parents aren't always around, and so kids can easily break rules. However, with uniforms, these rule breaking children will experiance severe consequences, preventing them from breaking it and wearing innapropriate clothing. -------------------------------------------- At this point, ending our debate, my opponent presents no valid argument whatsoever to which why uniforms should be banned. He/she also drops various of my arguments. Also, he/she has failed to meet any of his/her BoP at all! This is pretty much an automatic loss. I now continue with my final contentions. CONTENTION 4: OVERALL IMPROVEMENT Studies show that children overall improve due to uniforms. They tend to not be troublesome out side of school, because due to their uniforms, they can easily be identified. Also, girls enjoy it due to the fact that male counterparts do not offend her, preventing harrasement. [2] CONTENTION 5: MORE SLEEP A variety of people choose what they wan't to wear in the morning. This makes them wake up early. With uniforms, this isn't an issue, and so people get more sleep. Sleep is important for a growing body. CONCLUSION There is no valid reason to ban uniforms. They have endless benefit, from preventing bullying to improving studies and overall behaviour. They also prevent inapropriate clothing, save money and induce more sleep. It does not go against the first amendament, and does not take away freedom of expression. Banning it is the same as banning pizza. My opponent has no valid reason whatsoever on why they should be banned, he/she only states the down sides of uniforms in general. They also make false accusations, such as me " calling our species inferior and dumb." and claiming uniforms go against the first amendament. In addition, they fail to meet any of their BoP, and lack any source of proof whatsoever. I on the other hand have a variety of sources, and BoP isn't even on me. I explained a variety of reasons why uniforms are beneficial, and proved all my opponent's arguments wrong, whereas they dropped the majority of mine. Thanks for the debate overall however! Sources: [1]http://parenting.stackexchange.com... [2]http://www.dailymail.co.uk... ------------------------ And just to warn you once more because I am nice: REMINDER! Next round, you are not permitted to write any new argument, or post anything new. You are only permitted to write "thanks for the debate". This allows us to have an equal amount of rounds to debate. Breaking this rule shall result in a 7 point deduction. Do not ask for the rule to be revoked if you break it, because you have been warned.

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  • PRO

    Do you currently wear uniforms for your school, Or are...

    School Uniforms

    Do you currently wear uniforms for your school, Or are you saying that it takes longer to put on normal clothes because of missing buttons, Etc? Secondly, I believe the right to expression is very important, But the right to safety in school is even more important. After two years of a district-wide mandatory uniform policy In Long Beach California, Reports of assault and battery in the district's schools decreased by 34%, Assault with a deadly weapon dropped by 50%, Fighting incidents dropped by 51%, Sex offenses were cut by 74%, Robbery dropped by 65%, Possession of weapons dropped by 52%, Possession of drugs dropped by 69% and vandalism was lowered by 18%, According to ProCon. Org

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  • PRO

    A school uniform ensures that all pupils are dressed...

    School Uniforms

    A school uniform ensures that all pupils are dressed alike, thus removing possibility that kids from poorer families will be victimised or bullied because their parents can't afford to dress them in the latest designer clothes. Furthermore, uniforms are modestly styled so boys will not be distracted by girls' exposed cleavage (this happens, I won't mention any names but PoeJoe will confirm that this is the case) and girls won't be distracted by whatever girls are distracted by in boys. In addition, wearing a uniform identifies a pupil with his / her school and engenders a sense of pride in being associated with his / her particular seat of learning that will last long after they have left and entered to world of work. I look forward to reading my opponent's comments. Thank you.

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  • PRO

    As children are very often harassed or embarrassed...

    School Uniforms

    My other rules are: Source: You may NOT use Wikipedia as a source Conduct: any type of forfeiture results in instant lose of points. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Main Argument 1: Parents are saving money and better education. Sub argument 1: It is a proven fact that kids try to think about what to wear in the morning to get the 'coolest' styles on their wardrobes. Clothing has been a distractionfor pre-teens and teens. Children who come from a less fortunate economic background would not appear to be "lacking" or made fun of because their parents could not afford to buy them the newest trendy garment. As children are very often harassed or embarrassed because of their clothes, uniforms won't be a problem. School uniforms would save time for both parents and their children. Children would not have to think about what to wear in the morning and parents save time taking children shopping and waiting for them to get ready. Schools are meant for education, not for a social calendar. Source: http://www.proconlists.com...

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  • PRO

    I cannot really have a final statement. But I would like...

    School Uniforms should be allowed in Shcool

    I cannot really have a final statement. But I would like to say that school uniforms are not the worst thing in the world. Students say they don't like school uniforms because they can't express themselves. But I think that this is all just an excuse for not being able to wear comfortable clothes. School uniforms have many good aspects to them as well, as I have stated in the previous rounds, like: Reducing peer pressure, identifying intruders, boosting school spirit, focusing upon learning, and many more. Even though my opponent had not been honest in some ways in this debate, he has been a great opponent and I thank you. I also thank the viewers and voters of this debate for reading all of this. I hope you had a good time reading this. Thank you, everyone. Sources: http://www.frenchtoast.com...

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  • PRO

    i think kids who have school uniforms complain about the...

    schools should not have school uniforms

    i think kids who have school uniforms complain about the chose of uniforms

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  • CON

    Since the only post made by "con" is this "i think kids...

    schools should not have school uniforms

    Since the only post made by "con" is this "i think kids who have school uniforms complain about the chose of uniforms" I should address it for a complete debate. There are worthwile things for school childeren to complain about, this is not one of them.

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  • CON

    Plus, a parent could always tell their kid before they...

    School uniforms should be banned

    A student's freedom of attire is restricted with school uniforms. Students could still wear hair accessories or bracelets if they wanted to. Aside from attire, students could join a club or a spots team to show their personality. Plus, clothing isn't the only thing that could be used to express style; one can just tell friends their personality. Therefore, style/personality isn't really a problem if there are other ways to do it. Dress codes might give the students more freedom of expression. Yet, there is always the school's dress code, and the dress code between student. The school's dress code might look something like this: No "spaghetti" straps No crop tops No open shoes Etc. A student's dress code looks like this: Fancy sneakers Expensive shirt Designer pants Sexy pants (for older students) Rebellious necklaces If a student ignores the "student dress code" the results could include being an outcast or having a lower rank in status. If your parents don't recognize you because you are wearing the same thing as everyone else, they are horrible parents. Parents always remember that one thing that makes their son/daughter(s) special or unique. If they really can't find them, they could call their cell/smart phone and tell them where they are. Plus, a parent could always tell their kid before they left home that they will be waiting for them in [insert_place], such as the classroom, locker area, parking lot, tennis court, Etc. If schools have uniforms, it is a good thing that they do because if they didn't, students (especially girls) will have to choose wisely about the clothes they use in order to keep their rank (or raise) in status. When a kid doesn't have his/her size, they can just buy another uniform like you said. It's not that hard, you just have to try it before you buy it. Yes, uniforms can decrease self-esteem, but when that happens, they can just notice that everyone else is wearing the same thing! Nothin' to worry about. There are many things that can lower your self-esteem, you just have to find a way to increase it. (Follow your dreams, kids)Even without school uniforms, bullying will go on. There is no stopping it. These days, the onl thing left to do is to stand up to them. That study you mentioned, though, is from 1999. We are in 2017 now. A study published by The Daily Gazette in 2015 show that it does indeed. "It shows that reports of assault with deadly weapons dropped by 50%, fighting incidents went down by 51%, possession of weapons (or weapon “look-alikes”) decreased by 52%, sex offenses were cut by 74%, robbery dropped by 65%, possession of drugs went down by 69% and vandalism was lowered by 18%". SAVING CLASS TIME If students didn't wear uniforms, teachers would have to spend class time in order to check if all students have acceptable clothing. This means less class time, and what is school, without teaching? It is time to use our time valuably! SCHOOL SPIRIT "Famous Oxford Brookes University in UK carried out a study in 2007.According to this study school uniform is a major contributor in building up the feeling of pride amongst students towards their institution.", quote from listland.com. The feeling of pride for their schoolcreated healthy competition against other universities. This makes students feel like a part of a community. PROMOTES PROFESSIONALISM AND ENHANCES IMAGE Professionalism is a very important attribute to students. As they grow older, they have to seem something more than a "casual kid". A study proves that using school uniforms increases chances of teachers being impressed. SOURCES: http://www.listland.com... https://www.quora.com... https://dailygazette.com... Note:I am impressed by your debating skills! Especially since you claimed to be a little girl in the first argument. Keep up the good work!

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  • CON

    That is because ever since centuries ago, School uniforms...

    No school uniforms

    Well, Ladies and gentlemen! It seems that the instigator has forfeited (how sad), Though how he/she may have had some points, My case still stands. That is because ever since centuries ago, School uniforms has already been implemented. Why change something so historical now when you can invent other things than changing history? "Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor" - Sholom Aleichem -

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