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Feminism is harmful to society

Thank you for accepting this debate. Also, I said no arguments made in R1 but that's okay. You didn't get too into detail so it's fine. I highlight the following arguments: 1. Feminism is still relevant in today's society 2. Feminism is good for women AND men I would appreciate if my opponent also highlighted their arguments in a similar fashion to make rebutting easier (for the both of us). 1. Feminism is still relevant Often, people say that while feminism was a great movement in the past, it is no longer relevant as we have achieved equality or the nearest to it possible. However, this common misconception is highly worrying as the work of feminists is not done! Yes, women can vote. Yes, women can run companies. Yes, women can wear pants. But that doesn't mean we have total equality. Third wave feminism's goal is to also being attacking the smaller, less obvious aspects of patriarchy in society. For example, gender roles and male domination. These two go hand in hand. Have you noticed that there are far more male politicians and executives than women? You might say this is simply because women choose not to enter these jobs but it's important to understand why. Gender roles have a much larger influence on society than people want to believe. On birthdays, we give our girls babies to take care of and dolls to dress up while we give boys dinosaurs and action figures. We teach girls that they are nurturers and boys that they are action-takers. Not to say playing with dolls or action figures is inherently bad but the problem is when we reinforce stereotypes with small things like that. It fuels the machine that is patriarchy. It is important to also note that patriarchy is a reinforcement of other types of oppression. It contributes to contributes to racism, sizeism,, and homophobia. Imagine a poor black woman. She already has to deal with economic-based oppression, racism and now patriarchy is weighing on her too? Don't let the name fool you. Feminism may have started out as a way to allow white women their rights (it originally did not include black women and obviously not the LGBTQ community) but it has grown to fight for a much larger group of people than that. Also, while, in the US, our patriarchy is more subtle in certain aspects, think about other countries where they haven't made nearly as much progress. Think of Saudi Arabia where women not too long ago got the right to drive legally. Think about a basic think like driving! And even then, they still are under the guardianship system. Or imagine places like Nigeria where the terrorist group, Boko Haram, runs around raping young girls and women because "You rape the women and you kill the men.". Or how about India where every year 250-300 acid attacks occur. Sometimes on women who simply rejected a man's advances. You can't tell me patriarchy is over. https://www.usatoday.com... 2. Feminism is good for women AND men As I said before, patriarchy affects women greatly. And feminism is fighting this. However, the Pro mentioned the following earlier which ties in great with my second argument: "Feminism is very harmful to society because they hate men. Men do not benefit from feminism." For one, feminists do not hate men. It is only radicals who have twisted the true essence of feminism to fit their own incorrect beliefs. Do not generalize, that is like me saying all white people are racist because the KKK is racist. That's absurd and untrue. And second, feminism benefits men as well as women. Listen, I think you'll agree: This is an excerpt from an article (link below). "Expression "Man up." "Quit being a b*tch." "Why don't you grow a pair?" Our society has set up a standard of what masculinity should be...Men face pressure daily to act and speak in a certain "manly" way, in order to avoid being teased for not being man enough...a lot of us find ourselves in a situation where we feel need to hide the way we feel in order to maintain any respect as men...But feminists have been on our side, advocating for our society that everybody is entitled to express how they're feeling, including men. Custody Hearings Custody hearings are infamous for sexism towards men. Many times, the courtroom will buy into the nurturing mother stereotype without paying attention to who would actually be fit to have custody of the child. This is bad not just for us, but for the children who might end up in a bad home. Feminists have and will continue to stand up for fair treatment in the courtroom for both genders. Domestic Abuse ...we also need to be reminded that domestic abuse against men also exists and it's more common than people think. One in seven men in the United States will suffer from some form of domestic abuse in their lifetimes. But sometimes they're afraid to speak out because they fear that they'll be viewed as weak. Sexual Assault It took until 2012 for the FBI to acknowledge that men can also be raped. Until then, they couldn't call it that... Some women can overpower their male victim, others could spike their drinks, and many male victims' assaults can involve another male offender...The new acknowledgement was a step in the right direction for gender equality. Self Image Catalogs, magazines, movies and fashion shows, many people are aware of the unrealistic expectations that countless industries set for girls...Fitness industry profits have reached record levels. A big reason for this is because expectations that are being shoved in women's faces, are also being shoved in our faces. Calvin Klein, Hollister and countless other companies surround their stores with portraits of these great looking guys surrounded with women just gazing at their bodies, which forces some guys to become self conscious about the way they look. Fitness and supplement companies use huge athletes and models, many of them on performance enhancing drugs, to portray an unrealistic expectation of what the product does. Career Pursuits My philosophy is that if you love something, you should pursue it. It doesn't matter what the salary is, and it definitely doesn't matter what your gender is. Men deserve to have the opportunities to pursue whatever career they desire without being judged for it, even the ones that have been stereotyped as feminine such as modeling and nursing. The workplace as a whole will operate better if we judge everyone based on performance, not gender. And that's what feminism is aiming for. Feminism isn't just for women... It isn't about bringing one gender down to reach equality...It's about lifting one another up, when there's any form of oppression or unfair treatment. Unfortunately, feminism has gotten a bad reputation due to its message being at times, misinterpreted as anti male." https://www.theodysseyonline.com... I would argue that feminism has grown to benefit more people than it did when it was originally started. Suffragettes were white women who were trying to guarantee their own vote. Not to hate on them, I am just saying they were not thinking of civil rights or LGBTQ rights during their protests. And men's rights certainly were not one of their priorities. But now, feminism has grown to encompass all of those people. Feminists are fighting for equality for women, men, the LGBTQ community, people of color, etc. Here is a point I will close out on: "...one other important point to remember is, as described on the Daily Kos, "patriarchy is generally not an explicit ongoing effort by men to dominate women. It is a long-standing system that we are born into and participate in, mostly unconsciously."" https://organizingchange.org... Feminists do not hate men, and they understand that we are attacking the system (patriarchy) not the people (men and even women who sometimes buy into patriarchy). We just want equality.

Feminism is Cancer- rapid debate!

I'm typing as fast as I possibly can, because you only gave me 5 minutes to answer. DISCLAIMER: I actually agree with Pro, but I'm arguing for argument's sake. Definitions, since Pro didn't put any: - Third-wave feminism: Feminism that started in the early 21st century that dealt with women's portrayal in society and media. - Cancer: Repulsive, detrimental to society Let's start the debate, shall we?

Feminism killed Chivalry

Thanks for the debate. Burden of proof on Pro. Pro must prove that "Feminism killed Chivalry." In order to do that he must prove that 1: Chivalry lived, or is capable of living. 2: Chivalry died. 3: Feminism is directly responsible. Quite the burden to prove. Good luck to pro. As such Pro has not filled this burden of proof, therefore the resolution has no support.

Feminism in Today's Society

Feminism today is obviously a rising topic/issue/problem/whatever you'd like to call it, but nonetheless you can't argue that it isn't out there and isn't a big idea. Feminism has been on the rise in recent years, but that doesn't mean it only just became an ideology. For instance, when WWI/WWII were happening and growing into a global conflict, it called for more of America's men to step forward and serve their country. Naturally, this calling opened up a lot of needed positions in the States because now our warehouse workers, truck drivers, office workers, and just about anything else you think of were out across the world fighting for the USA. Women decided to step up and take a stand back home, no longer voices and now wanting to become real parts of society from what they were (housewives, stay-at-home moms, cooks, etc.) This was not a bad thing at all, in fact I think this benefited America in numerous ways, bringing in the equality factor, and also now that women were taking over jobs previously held by a man, I think the drive to be a harder worker and more competition for these jobs now by both men AND women sets the tone for the United States citizen's hardworking, get-s***-done spirit. Nowadays, feminist rallies and rising tensions between women supporting feminism (in my opinion) has drastically, drastically changed. No longer do I see a lot of "equality" or "equal pay" or anything along those lines - in the news and on social media I see constantly, women in support of "feminism" is now about having women become the superior. Women need better pay then men. Women should be running large companies, not men. Women should have the big-shot jobs, not men. From what I understand, feminism was initially to bring equality over topics like jobs, and pay, etc. but as mentioned, I see a lot of "feminists" assuming all men everywhere are simply looking for sex toys and treating women like a minority, that we're all misogynistic and savage. My debate here is - are you in support of TODAY's feminist movement? I for one am not. I believe if we're trying to have feminism around, it should be for equality and not what I see the majority of. Go for it. I take criticism easily and won't respond with insults or uncivilized bashing.

Feminism Is Cancer

The member offering this topic provided no definitions or context, so I will supply those here in my acceptance round. Resolution of Fact: The topic is a truth claim, and burden of proof is shared. When judging, voters should give the win to the competitor that best demonstrates the resolutions is accurate or not and provides the most compelling examples/evidence. The topic donates to rather provocative and troubling advocacy, that women should not be equal to men. As such critiques of the affirmative advocacy should be considered for votes as well. If the aff really wants to spend time/characters critiquing the negative advocacy, knock yourself out. Who am I to stop the Aff from shooting themselves in the foot ;-) Definitions: Feminism: ideology or social movement to define, establish and achieve equal political, economic, personal and social rights for women. **Note; conflating this definition of feminism with something more extreme should be viewed as fallacious and extra-topical. Cancer: (metaphorical; social) a practice or phenomenon perceived to be evil and/or destructive while being hard to contain or eradicate. I promise the voters some quality entertainment here, and encourage them to consider mentioning anything they found funny or clever in the comments or RFD. by the time we're done here the Aff's chronometers are going to be more sanitary than surgical instruments. Go Falls!

feminism is marxism

Okay, these quotes show that feminism has some roots in Marxism, that doesn't mean it is Marxism, that's completely different. "Class conflict? Check. Overthrowing capitalism? Check. Revolutionary dialogue? Check. Rewriting history? Check. Collective political action to force socialist policies? Check. Reconstructing issues to blame any perceived inequity on the environment and specifically gender(class) oppression? Check." Class conflict: It is a different type, Marxism focuses on the workers, feminism focuses on the women, it is very different Overthrowing capitalism: Feminists don't require that, and even if they want to, they go farther, the patriarch is their main issue Revolutionary dialogue: Is that exclusive to Marxism? No. Collective Political action to force socialist policies: Also not exclusive to Marxism Reconstructing issues to blame any perceived inequity on the environment and specifically gender(class) oppression: Also not exclusive to Marxism Face the facts, there may be similarities between the two, but they are not the same thing. I rest my case.

feminism is marxism

First, definitions: Feminism: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests Marxism: a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society is: present 3rd singular of be, dialect present 1st & 2nd singular of be, dialect present plural of be to be: to equal in meaning Source: Merriam-Webster That means that organized activity on behalf women's rights and interests is the same as a theory and practice of socialism including labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society. One could make the argument that Marxism would improve women's rights, and my argument to that would be that throughout history Marxism has only led to decreases in rights for everyone, ie North Korea, Cuba, USSR, East Germany, etc. The other argument would be that all feminists are Marxists, which is simply not true, plenty of people who fight for women's rights do not support Marxist ideals. My opponent's case is a complete non sequitur, it is simply some paper on a woman's experiences on feminism. It does not contain more than trivial evidence that the feminist in the paper is a Marxist, and even if it did, it would not speak for all feminists. Your move.

On balance, Feminism is not needed in the US anymore.

I'd like to thank my opponent for challenging me to this great debate! No terms were given, so I shall define "Feminism". Feminism- Feminism is a range of movements and ideologies that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, cultural, personal, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women. [http://www.bing.com...] Goodluck! J