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    For this debate a "school uniform" is a specific design...

    School uniforms ought to be worn in primary and secondary schools.

    For this debate a "school uniform" is a specific design for clothing designated to be worn while attending academic classes at a school. The school context comprises grades one through twelve of public and private schools in the United States. Different schools and different grades within schools may have different uniforms, as determined by parents and school administration. The paradigm is that of Japanese schools, as shown in anime. http://answers.yahoo.com.... The reasons for requiring uniforms are: 1) A distinct attire enforces behavior suited to the task. Consider why judges wear judicial robes. Clearly, the judicial system would not disintegrate if judges dresses casually. Nonetheless, it is virtually universally accepted that there is an incremental gain in focusing both the judge and the court proceeding that improves justice. It is fundamental to human psychology that costume reinforces attitude. We see also se this in the practices of the police, military, security guards, airline pilots, nurses (and doctors' white coats), professional chefs, and many private companies, like package delivery services. The best schools overseas, in Taiwan, Japan, and Hong Kong, use uniforms to help maintain a focus on education that leads to better performance. In the US, the Catholic schools, which mostly have uniforms, succeed better than public schools. There are differences besides uniforms that lead to better performance in these schools, but they all relate to discipline and focus. I grant that just having uniforms will not solve all problems. However it is step in the right direction, and we know it is in the right direction because it moves towards the constellation of attributes associated with focus and discipline. In the U.S, the most extensive test of uniform policies was in the Long Beach School system, which produced positive results: "The quantitative outcomes of the policy have been remarkable. Crime report summaries are now available for the five-year post-uniform policy period and reflect that school crime overall has dropped approximately 86%, even though K-8 student enrollment increased 14%. The five categories of school crime where comparisons can be made between 1993 levels and 1999 levels are as follows: (a) sex offenses down 93% (from 57 to 4 offenses); (b) robbery/extortion down 85% (from 34 to 5 cases); (c) selling or using chemical substances down 48% (from 71 to 37 cases); (d) weapons or look-a-likes down 75% (from 145 to 36 cases); and (e) dangerous devices down 96% (from 46 to 2 cases; LBUSD, 1999). ... Analysis of attendance figures has also provided interesting outcomes for the uniform initiative. In the fourth year that school uniforms have been required in K-8 grades, the percent of actual attendance reached almost 95%, noted as the highest point in the 18 years that the district has maintained statistics. Middle schools also registered comparable improvements in student attendance reaching almost 95% (LBUSD, 2002)." http://findarticles.com... 2) It promotes identity with the school and class, which emphasizes the common educational purpose. It puts everyone in the same boat so they are more likely to help each other succeed. This is a reason why players on sports teams wear identical uniforms. It would suffice to identify the team players if, say, one team wore predominantly red and the other predominantly blue, or even just predominantly dark and light. Yet there is widespread agreement that having identical uniforms is important for the team psychology. 3) It removes the distractions of fashion trends and fashion competition from school hours, thereby reinforcing the educational purpose of the enterprise. It helps students focus. "Eddie Scott, principal at Meade Middle on Fort Meade, tells the Baltimore Sun's writer, Anica Butler, "There's research that shows a correlation between appropriate dress and academic performance." Students will not be distracted with who is wearing what brand of jeans, shoes or shirts. Students can focus on learning which is why they are there." http://educationalissues.suite101.com... 4) One of the main reasons that Baltimore parents wanted to have school uniforms was to reduce clothing costs. Chasing fashion fads and buying many different stylish outfits is far more expensive than just a few uniforms. However, while costs are lower for middle and upper income families, there is a potential hardship for poor families. It is well worth it for the school system to provide uniforms to such families. The uniforms are guaranteed to be used, so poor kids get better clothing and costs are lowered overall. Before-and-after studies in the Long Beach and Baltimore schools show that uniforms achieve positive effects. The Wikipedia article on school uniforms cites a study by Brunsma and Rockquemore, which purports to show there is no effect. The full text of the study is posted at http://sociology.missouri.edu... The study is bogus. The key defects are that the study contained almost no public schools, and even more importantly, never considered data from the same school before and after the policies were implemented. The authors basically end up studying schools that already had high levels of discipline, and conclude that if all else is right, then uniforms make no difference. The authors made statistical corrections for the statistically biased sample, but they give almost no information on what they did in order to get the answer they sought. They admit, for example, that Catholic schools achieve better performance, but they apply corrections to the data so it doesn't correlate to uniforms. The authors claim to be surprised by their results, but go on to reveal clear bias. For example, they dismiss the solid before-and-after case of the Long Beach School system by saying that a $1 million study ($10/student) introduced unspecified "educational reforms" that produced the dramatic changes. If dramatic improvement could be achieved effortlessly, the "reforms" would surely be adopted universally, which they were not. Beyond that, the authors would surely name the reforms if they were so compelling, but they did not do that either. Moreover, absolutely no one in the school system attributed the improvements to anything but the uniform policy. The authors bias shows throughout their intemperate and unjustified conclusions. A statistics package in the hands of a social scientist remains a dangerous thing. The authors made one valid point. They suggest that the parental involvement that precipitated a policy of requiring uniforms in Long Beach may have precipitated other improvements. I suggest that parents and educators showing that they cared about educational performance had a positive effect upon performance. That's a good result and a good reason for parents and educators showing they care by adopting a uniforms policy else where. Adopting school uniforms will not solve all the problems of education. Before-and-after studies show significant improvements in performance, and virtually all of the top schools systems in the US and abroad have uniform policies as part of an overall program that focuses student. The resolution is affirmed.

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    How will your child ever cope in the adult world when...

    School uniforms should be required by U.S. public schools.

    First of all I would like to point out that my opponent has plagiarized and copied virtually all if his arguments word for word from websites. Instead of copying and pasting he should contribute to the debate with his own ideas and words, or at least source a website if he uses one. - http://www.angelfire.com... Reduces Bullying I never said that the problem of bullying will dissapear. I merely said wearing school uniforms will reduce school uniforms because it gives bullies less things to ridicule, mainly economic status and wearing clothes that don't "fit in." Of course kids should learn to accept everyone. But you can have school uniforms, which helps, and then teach your kids about accepting people, which helps even more. "How will your child ever cope in the adult world when they actually do encounter someone who is different then themselves?" Bullying is a habit, if people do not bully (or bully less) as kids, then they will be unlikely to bully as an adult. Dressing for Success There are links to success which is proved in this document(source 1)- "Draa's study concluded that those schools with uniform policies improved in attendance, graduation and suspension rates." Here are some effects that were found in a scientific study- "A case study of the effects of adopting school uniforms in Long Beach, CA which appeared in Psychology Today in September, 1999, reported the following effects from the switch to uniforms in 1995: Overall, the crime rate dropped by 91% School suspensions dropped by 90% Sex offenses were reduced by 96% Incidents of vandalism went down 69%" There was another study done in Kenya that proved school uniforms enhanced academic performance (source 2.) Respect and Attention Wearing different clothing can easily distract people. Looking at others clothing can easily cause someone to judge them or to measure the attractiveness. Individualism Also coming from this document(source 1,) it shows one reason that it helps individualize people- "The wearing of school uniforms helps students to realize that a person’s unique gifts and personality traits go deeper than their apparel and aren’t diminished by uniform dress. " I would like to thank my opponent for the interesting debate. Sources 1. http://www.mcfarland.k12.wi.us...; 2. http://www.poverty-action.org...

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  • PRO

    School uniforms should be compulsory for all students at...

    should school uniforms be made compulsory in schools

    School uniforms should be compulsory for all students at all grade levels. There are many reasons,which justify this including discipline,discrimination and to give the students a sense of identity. If all students at a particular school didn't wear school uniforms,there would be discrimination between the financially advantaged people and the disadvantaged people.

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  • PRO

    Teens and kids should have to wear the same thing in...

    Teens and kids should wear school uniforms

    Teens and kids should have to wear the same thing in school school might be for making friends but its supposed to be for learning discipline and manners and learning how to get a job with the things you learned having uniforms takes focus off of what your wearing and puts focus on whats really important...doing your school work so i think uniforms should be a law in schools mostly the uniform black blazer and red tie i think you should agree with me that school is for learning and not focusing on other things America could be one of the top smartest country's again if we learned our manners and focused more on school.

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    The reasons why we shouldn't have school uniforms are the...

    School uniforms should be banned.

    The reasons why we shouldn't have school uniforms are the cost doesn't meet the wadges of families trying to make ends meet.Secondly it doesn't diminish bulling.How is this possible let me explain say I have a blue tie and then I give my opponent the same tie sure the ties are the same but we both look different in the same looking ties.Basically my point is everyone can wear the same clothing but how the look in that clothing is an entirely different story.Also con stated on google there are 1 million people don't care about creativity or art that is not alot there are seven billion people world wide and when viewed from that scale that small compared to seven billion. REBUTTAL#1 CONTENTION 1: BULLYING PREVENTION is illogical because I could had out a billion people the same suit and i promise you all of them will look different sure IT IS THE SAME UNIFORM but the people wearing them will look different. REBUTTAL#2 Contention 3: Restricts inapropriate clothing this one is also illogical sure uniforms restrict bad or improper clothing but the one thing is that WHO IN THERE RIGHT MIND COMES TO SCHOOL WITH A BIKINI!!!!!We are humans no nianderthals we know right and wrong.We have proper sense.Cons statement is possibly a derogatory slur calling our species inferior and dumb.And if that's not what it meant then what dos it mean we have common sense to dress correct.We have parents that tell us not to wear a bikini to school or wait they don't tell us that why because we have enough sense to correctley dress.

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    fashion shows that students do..."WHAT? ... Schools...

    School Uniforms Should not be Required

    You have yet to cite any sources at all, and you have lots of spelling and grammar errors. And what are the "other avenues that students can productively express themselves creatively during school time"? "Equalize students....", "we can all learn & we can all be something in life regardless of our finances"... Didn't you already state that in the first round? Oh well. "fashion shows that students do..."WHAT? I've never seen any "fashion shows that students do"!! Albert and Stephen are bad examples. Arguably they're not very creative. They're just insanely intelligent. " prepares them for an adult world..." Well most jobs don't require uniforms. "Dress code...." Although uniforms can deduce the stress on dress codes, and completely removes the need for it, there's still my argument about emblems. That argument still stands. Schools cannot force people to wear a message, whether it's controversial or not.

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    Well thats what it sounds like from your above statement...

    School Uniforms benefit schools

    "It helps studeents express themselves and be more creative." Yeah but you're talking about finding a look. "Clothes are an important way that kids express themselves in a relatively harmless way. When you take this away, kids may express themselves in a more negative way." So you are of the belief that kids expressing themselves with clothing will take from the other ways in which they could express themselves. Well thats what it sounds like from your above statement anyway. So by your logic allowing students to wear their own clothes would take from their expressing themselves and being creative in subjects like art, english and music. "But students need two sets of clothes, school clothes and regular clothes, making the ost much more." I'll give you that, but its a small price to pay to free up all that creativity that could be put to a better use than finding a look, isn't it? And why doesn't the student just buy the uniform if hes that stuck for money. There is no huge difference in the prices you found for us seeing as you left out the belt to go with the jeans and t-shirt. Your argument is based on the fact that someone might only be able to afford one pair of clothes but you haven't put forward any argument for why the jeans and t-shirt are a necessity. "Well thats what it sounds like from your above statement anyway. So by your logic allowing students to wear their own clothes would take from their expressing themselves and being creative in subjects like art, english and music. "But students need two sets of clothes, school clothes and regular clothes, making the ost much more." I'll give you that, but its a small price to pay to free up all that creativity that could be put to a better use than finding a look, isn't it? And why doesn't the student just buy the uniform if hes that stuck for money. There is no huge difference in the prices you found for us seeing as you left out the belt to go with the jeans and t-shirt. Your argument is based on the fact that someone might only be able to afford one pair of clothes but you haven't put forward any argument for why the jeans and t-shirt are a necessity. "So by your logic allowing students to wear their own clothes would take from their expressing themselves and being creative in subjects like art, english and music. "But students need two sets of clothes, school clothes and regular clothes, making the ost much more." I'll give you that, but its a small price to pay to free up all that creativity that could be put to a better use than finding a look, isn't it? And why doesn't the student just buy the uniform if hes that stuck for money. There is no huge difference in the prices you found for us seeing as you left out the belt to go with the jeans and t-shirt. Your argument is based on the fact that someone might only be able to afford one pair of clothes but you haven't put forward any argument for why the jeans and t-shirt are a necessity. "Uniforms get tattered" Yes they do, but every student would be wearing the uniform to school every day. Whereas in a school where uniforms are not required a student who wore the same clothes to school every day would definitely be in the minority. In this way it would spare them embarassment. "and cost more to replace than regular clothes." The difference in cost is tiny if you don't include the belt. If the student kept his/her eyes on the floor on the way to the shop to replace the clothes, he/she would probably make up the difference. "It teaches kids to judge people based on how they look. That they all have too look the same in order to be equal." People in suits are generally a lot safer to approach that crack addicts. "Polo shirts show off a girl'surves, and can be very sexy." http://i68.photobucket.com... You'll be hard put to find a polo shirt that comes close to even being half as distracting as that. You probably cant even remember what we were debating after looking at that picture. "Outsiders always stand out, they are adults. Also, school ID's fix this probem easily." Outsiders have to be adults? "Also, school ID's fix this probem easily." How much are the poor kids going to have to pay to get their ID's printed?

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  • PRO

    Let these chains break and these shackles ripped off I...

    School uniforms should be banned.

    Let these chains break and these shackles ripped off I have no regard for you.You are not a judge nor a person.You are a self centered brain scattered twit.You do not dictate this debate.Let these chains be broken school uniforms should be abolished because it is not fitting in the eyes of a few it is not liked by some.What are we going to do kill the people who do not like uniforms.Or maybe just send a hitman to them.Of course not you may like a uniform and others may not you cannot ignore the fact that there are some people who do not like uniforms.The truth is we all have a creative spirit we have just have forgotten it.We all have something to express but uniforms are just average confining you to wear one suit or dress everyday.Come on everyone let us understand as an evolutionary era we all must evolve from just one type of clothing.Voters please note my opponent is a hypocrite giving rules only involving me.Now that is hypocrisy like she is a judge.You know Temmo I finally now what bop means Bumptious Obnoxious prick and that exactly what you are.I do not care about you defending your friend his account is closed there is nothing you can do.FYI Temmo is a twit Note(Teemo shut it I have no care for your comments)

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  • PRO

    the other cool thing aboute wearing scool uniforms is...

    school uniforms

    the other cool thing aboute wearing scool uniforms is that if you have a music concert you wont have to change.

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    I strongly believe that wearing a school uniform is...

    should school uniforms be made compulsory in schools

    I strongly believe that wearing a school uniform is crucial to the way children behave and also affects them academically. Most importantly, wearing a school uniform shows respect for the school, and gives children a sense of belonging. We wear school uniforms to show pride in our school. Taking our identity away would mean that we could come from any school, any state, and in any country, making school uniforms an important and crucial part of our school life. Additionally, being identifiable from a particular school reduces the opportunity for students to skip school or get into trouble on the way to and from school. If students wore normal clothes they may be mistaken for adults and could do things they shouldn't, such as smoking or taking the day off.

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CON

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    If his argument bases itself solely on the expression...

    School Uniforms Shouldn't Be Required

    I thank 9spaceking for his response and for instigating this excellent debate. I should like to remind all that since 9spaceking instigated this debate he chose the resolution and the Proposition position himself. As such I did not force him into accepting the BoP, he put the BoP on himself. I once more cite the Latin rule: "Onus probandi incumbet ei qui deciet, non ei qui negat." With that in the clear, let us now begin! 1. My opponent has conceded this. 2. My opponent has conceded this. 3. He did not summarize what negative impacts and why these negative impacts occured. If his argument bases itself solely on the expression argument he has himself conceded it earlier and therefore this point becomes moot. Also I have tried many times, the page fails to display. 4. He makes a positive claim, which seems quite trollish. In essence discipline is needed because schools help to prepare children for the future, where they will have to follow a set of laws, such as that of a country. A school teaches them all this. Also by raising this point 9spaceking concedes that If his argument bases itself solely on the expression argument he has himself conceded it earlier and therefore this point becomes moot. Also I have tried many times, the page fails to display. 4. He makes a positive claim, which seems quite trollish. In essence discipline is needed because schools help to prepare children for the future, where they will have to follow a set of laws, such as that of a country. A school teaches them all this. Also by raising this point 9spaceking concedes that uniforms help in discipline. 5. I do not have access to source 3, also it is a purely American source and American law cannot be applied to other countries. 6. My opponent has conceded this. 7. My opponent has conceded this. 8(a). Let me start by clarifying that according to the rules you placed the BoP on yourself, whether it put the odds in my favour or not is irrelevant. 8(b). I think I will argue with pictures later. First of all you have the burden to prove that such an evil scientist lives. You also have the burden to show that these children will be made into robots. Also there is a brown haired person who does not cross his legs. Untill you can prove this your argument is moot, the resolution does not stand, and I win. s://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com...; alt="" /> School Uniforms are often hot: s://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com...; alt="" /> Sweet Jesus! s://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com...; alt="" /> Ajab

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  • CON

    I will have you know that I am a student, and I have seen...

    school uniforms

    I will have you know that I am a student, and I have seen schools with uniforms, and most of the kids are jerks. I have said that the kids don't get to show their personality, so they go wild at special events, so there are little or no special events.

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  • CON

    whats the point of school uniforms they don't help you...

    Should STEAM magnet schools wear school uniforms

    whats the point of school uniforms they don't help you learn nor constraint nor for reputation the school just wants us to look like nerd and school pets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • CON

    You will be arguing that school uniforms should be...

    School uniforms should be banned.

    I have seen you debating this with baus and I find it unfair you only gave him 15 minutes. Also, you just copy pasted from your previous round. Because of this injustice, I challenge you to the same debate. You will be arguing that school uniforms should be banned. BoP is on you. Rules: 1. first round you introduce your opening statements, last round you write no more than "no round as agreed upon". This gives us an equal amount of rounds. 2. no plagiarism 3. no using the same argument from other debates, or previous rounds in this debate. When I say this, I mean no copy pasting other arguments you have already done. 4. No profanity Breaking any rules will result in a 7 point deduction. The first rule only applies to pro.

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  • CON

    This argument is about whether schools should implement...

    School Uniforms should be allowed in Shcool

    This argument is about whether schools should implement uniforms into their school policy. This will be like a 3 on 3 debate, prop 1 goes, opp 1 goes, prop 2 goes, opp 2 goes, opp 3 goes, prop 3 goes. During the first and second round will make the arguments, while the third speakers do refutes, waive, and support. VOTING SHOULD NOT HAPPEN TILL THE END OF THIS DEBATE. Prop goes up first.

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  • CON

    First, if students have to wear the same thing as...

    High school students should wear uniforms.

    I am arguing that students should not be forced to wear uniforms in school. First, if students have to wear the same thing as everyone else, then there is no way to express your personality. Your clothes are a way to show who you are to others. Next, this would be another thing to buy. People will say that you will not have to buy as many outfits, but although you do not wear these clothes to school, you still need clothes to wear around town and at home. You buy clothes as it is, so why not get more use out them before you outgrow them. You will never wear your uniform after you're done with school, so why not pay for clothes that you can re wear over sand over again. Also, some people may feel restricted and uncomfortable in these outfits that they are forced into. Everyone has a different body shape and type. Why should we force everyone to look and dress the same? Some people also say that clothes can distract students from learning, but if they are uncomfortable in the uniforms, they will not learn. We should allow student to dress in clothes that they are comfortable in. Lastly, I believe that it can draw away from school spirit. If you have to wear uniforms, you cannot wear a specific outfit with your sports team. You do not have the option to show team spirit when you are forced to wear the same outfit as everyone else. I believe that there are some pros to having uniforms, but the cons outweigh them. Your clothing is a way to express yourself and is a freedom that should not be taken away from you.

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  • CON

    2) Reduce economic and other social divisions between...

    schools should not have school uniforms

    I affirm that school uniforms 1) Help students resist peer pressure - freeing them to develop deeper scoical skills. 2) Reduce economic and other social divisions between students from different backgrounds. 3) Help security in identification of students and reduce gang issues.

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  • CON

    So I just hate uniforms because i have been wearing a...

    Uniforms

    So I just hate uniforms because i have been wearing a uniform for 1000000000 years I hate it uniforms people say that it rejoice bullying but that is a big fat lie that all that people that said that so everyone out there should go ask there teacher and say get stuff because I am not wearing a uniform ever in my life again so to all you people that are at a school So stop and never wear a uniform again Ben the boss

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  • CON

    What do u think should students wear school uniforms

    should students have to wear school uniforms

    What do u think should students wear school uniforms

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  • CON

    As I stated earlier, The main reason for bullying is not...

    Should every children wear school uniforms at every school

    I do think you make good points. == School uniforms keep students focused on their education, Not their clothes. But in the end, Like I said many will find loopholes. Shorter skirts, Fancier accessories, Etc. It still seems as much 'distracting' as normal, Casual clothes do. == Uniforms create a level playing field among students, Reducing peer pressure and bullying. As I stated earlier, The main reason for bullying is not because of the bullied because of the 'builler'. But, Yes I do see that many will not just see it that way, But as I said, There will be loopholes. As for finances, The cost of uniforms is pretty high considering most school I have seen. Although your debate about bullying does sound compelling. ==Regarding what you wear and the expectations from teachers and professors since they expect different from you as you are older and put you more in a higher standard. I think you make a great point. But the earlier we teach certain skills and virtues, The more mature and responsible we become as we get older.

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