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Topic space viewPublic Schools should not have to wear school uniforms
Public schools should not have to wear school uniforms. By wearing school uniforms you are not able to express yourself. I do believe that there should be rules about what you wear at a public school but everyone should not be forced to wear the same thing.
School Uniforms Shouldn't Be Required
Unfortunately this I must concede. So many conceded points!! 3. I did summarize it. If you look back I stated that this link was to the Notre Dame research which showed school uniform's negative impacts. Link one last time in hope that it works:http://aclunv.org... . 4. Uh, yes? 5. I meant source 3. 6. Oh, snap! I can't rebut that. Now I have to drop the other half. 7. Curse you!! I can't rebut that either. 8. Looks can be decieving. It seems that I have lost most arguments. However, I remind you that Ajab had unfairly put the BoP on top of me, which I didn't realize was fair until in the comments section... "If you had said we had shard BoP, it would have been more fair", pretty much conceding that he made the debate unfair. Finally, I will pull out my trap card, as we never mentioned whether trolling was allowed or not. Good luck countering the troll argument presented below. Look at those smiling students. They look pretty happy, don't they! Well, I'll tell you something--you're wrong! They aren't happy. Why? Because they love the race they are... Look at their skin color! No offense, and not being racist, it's true--they all have the same skin color! And their uniforms--their uniforms all have to same colors! We can logically deduce that if uniforms are worn then people have the same skin color. This is actually a crude experiment by an evil genius scientist to turn all the school's poor children into his evil robot slaves! Look at them, they're all the same--shoes, hand motions, even the creepy way they smile is exactly the same! If you aren't convinced, take a look at this other picture... Look! They're all the same! Sure, the blond girl seems to be unaffected as the others, but streaks of brown can be seen! Oh god, save us! And only one person has glasses on! Look at the guy on the left, the guy two seats to the right, and two seats to the right, and the guy two seats to the right...that's right! All of them are trying to cross their legs, copying the guy on the rightest and the girls too! It can be concluded this photo was taken while the transformation was happening...this is terrible! THE CONSEQUENCES IF WE FORCE SCHOOL UNIFORMS TO BE REQUIRED The consequences are unimaginable. One word? Destruction. Two words? Take-over. Three words? [BLEEP] us all. I know, you might say "hey, what proves that these robots are destructive? Why couldn't they be nice?" Well, I say, it's the evil genius scientist who designed these robots. He's gotten so far ahead that the earliest one of his robots has grown into an adult! Look at her eyes, how they bore into you....they hypnotize you and yet they look faraway, having lost their sentience long long ago....how terrible! Fortunately these robots have yet to outnumber normal human beings, so we should stop them while we still can! Ban school uniforms!! Good debate. :P
School uniforms ought to be worn in primary and secondary schools.
There have been two major experiments with uniforms in public schools in the United States, the Long Beach and Baltimore school systems. Both were dramatic successes, and educators in both systems attributed the results entirely to the uniforms policies. Results are measured in terms of discipline problems and academic achievement. The most successful school systems in the US, the parochial schools, and the highest performing school systems overseas (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan) all have policies requiring uniforms. School uniforms work by engendering focus and school spirit, and by eliminating distractions. The human psychology behind the effects of costume on behavior is evidenced broadly, in professions ranging from judges and the military to airline pilots and service workers. (1) Con conjectures that the purpose of judicial robes is to make the judge the center of attention, as if otherwise he or she would not be the center of attention. While the practice of wearing robes is traditional, modern judges believe that enhances the "judicial mode" of thinking: "The robe is considered a reminder of the law and a symbol of neutrality." 35th District Court in Plymouth, Michigan http://www.35thdistrictcourt.org... "The robe symbolizes the authority of the court, differentiating them from the person who is the judge. It vests the person wearing it with all rights and permissions (authorities) that go along with the position of a judge. Contempt towards that individual, then becomes contempt of the court, not the person, because the judge represents and embodies the court as a whole, not the individual person any longer...Having gone all through the booklets on judicial robes when choosing them with my husband, I am more than familiar with what they can and can't wear, and what this is based on, since the companies are kind enough to send informative little packets with the other literature and style choices." http://forums.cnet.com... Con argues that if special apparel enhances judicial thinking, then it should be applied to juries as well. I agree, it would be a definite help. Currently, jurors do not, as a rule, conform to any dress code more strict than, say, what one would wear to the mall. They would do well to have a "trier-of-fact mode," particularly for felony trials. Con argues that in many professions, uniforms are used mainly for identification. Sure, sometimes it helps identification, but identification can most often be accomplished with less cost or effort than wearing a uniform. As in the Old West, law enforcement can be identified by those wearing a badge and carrying a gun. In modern times, a black tee shirt with "POLICE" in white letters is preferred in confusing situations like drug take-downs. Often, in general, a picture badge is better identification than a uniform, because uniforms can be stolen or faked. The military battle dress uniforms are camouflaged, making the soldier harder to identify, not easier. Professions requiring focus and discipline tend to use uniforms, independent of identification. Many have no need to be identified by the public at all, like airline pilots and chefs. Con asks how performance is quantified. That was answered in the cited material early, with measures of discipline and academic performance. The evidence was provided at the same time in the cited statistics related to Long Beach and Baltimore, and in the qualified opinions of educators. In the case of Catholic schools, Brunsma and Rockquemore grant that Catholic schools have better performance, but then attempt to adjust it away statistically, without proper justification. Internationally, for example, the five top countries in eighth grade math are http://nces.ed.gov... Taiwan, Singapore, S. Korea, Hong Kong, and Japan; all having school uniforms. (2) Con argues that having uniforms would encourage competition among schools. That is desirable, because it provides additional motivation for students to excel. It's the job of educators to channel the competition into academic pursuits like the school's overall test scores, or maybe the debate team. I do not claim that uniforms are the only factor in education. The main factor, I claim, is focus and discipline. It is more important, for example, that parents insist that studies be a high priority and that students are impressed by society that education is a serious and important activity. What uniforms accomplish is conveying that message. American schools have many resource advantages compared to other school systems in the world, yet performance is mediocre. We therefore expect that uniforms will have the greatest impact in schools that lack focus, and the least impact in schools that achieve focus through parental involvement. The methodology of Brunsma and Rockquemore was to compare Catholic schools having and not having uniforms to show that uniforms were not the decisive factor; perhaps so, but the before-and-after experience in Long Beach and Baltimore shows that in less disciplined public schools they are an important factor. As a matter of policy, we should do everything that helps education, and that includes uniforms. (3) Con argues, "The concept of fashion trends being distracting is pure fiction. Distractions occur due to boring material or boring teachers, and school uniforms don't fix that." So are we to conclude that eighth grade mathematics in Taiwan and Japan is much more exciting than it is in the United States? An that the excitement is intensified by having much larger classes with less student-teacher interaction? "There are basically five fashion trends of the high schooler today. Each unique fashion style lends itself to its own unique social outlet. While these five fashion trends may be the popular ones of today's high school students, it doesn't mean that there aren't other high school fashion trends. ... The fashionistas search out the hottest fashionable clothing trends for the high schooler. Their main goal is to achieve the ultimate outfit from the hottest fashion trends at their local malls. Fashionistas set the highest standards for high school fashion. The fashionista is a tough job to have as far as high school fashion goes, but someone has to do it. " http://www.associatedcontent.com... The less of this, the better. (4) Con suggests that the rich be taxed to pay for the school uniforms of poor students. that sounds good to me. Agreed. Con argues that "Chasing fashion fads may be expensive, but it's optional. Parents do not have to buy so much clothing for their children." It's not true that teenagers are content to quietly do as they are told by their parents. Requiring uniforms takes one expensive item off the agenda for discussion and compromise. That is why Baltimore parent cited it as strong advantage of the uniforms policy. Perhaps in a different society, the theory of it being "optional" is true, but in the real American society, a uniform policy cuts costs. (c1) Con argues that uniforms limit self-expression. This is admitting it is a distraction from education. There is no limitation on how students express themselves outside of school; some of the Japanese are outrageous cosplayers. In school, the focus should be on school as a profession. (C2) School uniforms do limit diversity, just as do police uniforms, military uniforms, and judicial robes. We want students to focus on the common interest in education. They can express diversity in the academic world of ideas, where it is appropriate. (C3) Con argues that "uniforms enforce conformity, and conformity is stifling to creativity and originality." If expressing oneself through clothing is not allowed, that only leaves intellectual, academic, and social mechanisms for creativity. That's exactly where we want the empha
Teens and kids should wear school uniforms
Yes I had a source but I forgot it btw yes school uniforms can be a bit pricy but not if it's a buttoned shirt and tie that could be marry 60 or 30 dollars but most of that would come from the fact that it's the uniform also self experience people do pay attention to what you wear class and hall and uniforms show intruders they show pride and discipline in the school all schools should have uniforms.
Uniforms
"Lots of students would get in trouble for not wearing uniforms" Students could also get in trouble for wearing inappropriate clothing like crop-tops, Clothing that shows their belly, Etc. "Uniforms in school violate freedom of expression. " This is untrue. Most schools with uniforms allow students to style their hair any way they want (except, Of course, When it's dyed unnaturally bright colours that are distracting) and wear accessories like bracelets, Lockets and headbands. It's not a complete violation of freedom of expression. "School would be a very boring place if everybody had the same clothes. " Schools are supposed to be fun on special days, Like Christmas, Hannukah, Halloween, Sports Days, Trips, Etc. On these days, Even uniform schools allow costumes and Christmas/Hannukah themed clothing. Schools aren't supposed to be fun on a classic Monday. I still stand my ground that uniforms are the opposite of distracting; in fact, Nobody minds uniforms. People get used to uniforms after wearing them. Imagine being new at school and are nervous. If it was a non-uniform school, One would be worried no one would like their sense of fashion; moreover, You'd want to make a 'first impression'. First impressions are the most unreliable way of judging a person. For example, One at a school might dress in pink clothes and give an impression of being a popular girl. Maybe this person is trying to fit in. This brings us to the fact that it is hard to fit in with a style different from everyone else. Some people fake being popular or fake being one of the bullies to avoid getting bullied- this might lead to an identity crisis. "You can wear one tracksuit for the whole year (very similar to a uniform, Heh). " By the way, Most people get two sets of uniforms and can survive with them. Another point to mention is that this tracksuit can get just as dirty as a uniform can, So you've given me a useless example. (Heh!
school uniforms
Your school may use high tech ID badges but not every school does due to the amount of money that would be required to run a system like that in a public school with more than 1000 students, as this would make this system a whole lot harder to keep track of and run. By all of the students having the same uniform on excursions the teacher is able to easily identify their students in a crowd rather than looking at a little red 'blot' on a tablet or device. And as for this "not paying attention to the students needs which by the way is their job.", this is just stupid as if your teacher have to look at their devices to keep track of you, that means all of your students can run off doing their own thing, which means your teacher is not paying attention to the students needs which by the way is their job. "Now on a more serious note bullying is a real thing that real people deal with. when people feel that they are being overwhelmed by everyday school life then get a parent or get an adult that you trust so that they can solve the problem." I agree that bullying is a big point but if you just have ID badges and no school unifrom, you are setting your students up to fail, as the poor kid would be bringing "cheap" clothes and the rich people would bully them and Ostracize them from the rest of the school. Think if you were that poor kid would you like to be in that position? "another thing is you can talk to that person to solve the problem. it is not usually just because of what you are wearing or how you look it is usually a much deeper problem than that. that person may be dealing with serious emotional problems so telling an adult is usually the best thing." This makes sense for Public school's maybe if they have school unifrom, as then it is more about how they feel towards you personally and then they are bringing emotions into it, but in cases of schools without Uniforms they pay you otu because of the way you look which then in turn show how much money your family has. This would make people more self-centered and they would grow up and think this is the way life is and they would be doing that to other people. School unifroms also set people up for when they get jobs as being in a high end or a low end job most of them require there workers to wear specific unifroms which is what you learn when you are in school. I would also like to thank Kai11 for this wonderful debate.
Uniforms should be worn in school
How can you confidently say that people don't wear the same quality uniform? Do you have any evidence? Ok, even if people don't wear the same quality uniform, then this might result for the principal to setup some consequences like detention, seeing the student back home, or even expelling the student ( which I believe nobody wants this to happen). 2. How can wearing uniform increase distractions when everyone is wearing the same outfit? No one will be distracted because students know that they are wearing the same outfit as everyone else, so why bother looking at others uniforms when you have the same one!!!! 3. And the concern that how does it increase self confidence, there is a simple answer to it. In a non-uniform school when middle and lower class children wear something and the rich children wear famous, expensive clothing, the middle and lower class children feel excluded, negative things about themselves, and the fact that they can't afford these type of expensive clothing. That is the main reason why bullying happens in public schools. But if everyone wears uniforms, then the rich children will wear the same uniform as others wear. And if everyone wears the same uniform, children will have self confidence that they will not be targeted as a victim of bullying of any other bad activity. In conclusion, I believe that by wearing uniforms, we can make our lives easier and reduce the chance of being a victim. I have made my points that logically lead to proving that uniforms should be worn in schools and my opponents has not provided any convincing points or evidence. North, South, East or West ... Everyone knows that the Pro is the best. So vote for Pro!!!!!!!!!
school uniforms should be mandatory
I feel that school uniforms should be mandatory as they eradicate the thin line, especially in girls, of being rich and not so rich. I feel that a person is rich when she or he has a beautiful heart with a resplendent mind rather than having 100 different types of boots. it creates a pressure on student who don't or can't dress up so well.
School Uniforms
That doesn't mean they shouldn't have uniforms.
School uniforms encourage discipline
Having to wear smart clothes encourages children to respect their school and their teachers and behave themselves. This is because of the association between smart clothes and work. Casual wear at school can also make students feel over-relaxed and 'at home,' meaning they don't focus as much on work. A lot of schools are bringing back school uniform because they want to improve discipline[21]. Moreover, school uniform can actively encourage students to enter into an adversarial relationship with the curriculum and their teachers. Exercising arbitrary control over children in the interests of “discipline” is likely to convince them that the very sensible, rational principles of learning and critical thought that they acquire during the school day are equally arbitrary and meaningless. By refusing to allow children to participate in enjoyable, beguiling processes of discovery and understanding unless they comply with unjustified and meaningless rules about dress, schools risk being seen as oppressive and capricious by their students. 1 The Telegraph, 2009. This is because of the association between smart clothes and work. Casual wear at school can also make students feel over-relaxed and 'at home,' meaning they don't focus as much on work. A lot of schools are bringing back school uniform because they want to improve discipline[21]. Moreover, school uniform can actively encourage students to enter into an adversarial relationship with the curriculum and their teachers. Exercising arbitrary control over children in the interests of “discipline” is likely to convince them that the very sensible, rational principles of learning and critical thought that they acquire during the school day are equally arbitrary and meaningless. By refusing to allow children to participate in enjoyable, beguiling processes of discovery and understanding unless they comply with unjustified and meaningless rules about dress, schools risk being seen as oppressive and capricious by their students. 1 The Telegraph, 2009. School uniforms return in drive to improve school discipline [online] 1 October. improve this
Mandatory School Uniforms are a violation of free expression
Upon seeing a debate with this argument as a point closed, my aspirations were crushed to such a degree that I decided I would recreate this debate myself and open it up once again to the populace. Resolved: Mandatory School Uniforms are a violation of free expression Some definitions are in order: Mandatory: Necessary, compulsory School Uniforms: Uniforms worn by students that are unique to the school Violation: to harm, go against Free expression: the right to behave and present ourselves as we see fit The first round will be a presentation of arguments from my opponent. He may choose at that point if he wants to use the last round for arguments or a "thanks for playing" message to myself and you, the audience. Regardless of whether he argues in the final round or not, there shall be no new arguments made there. I hope for an enlightening discussion.
uniforms
I thank my opponent for posting his/her argument. Reasons why uniforms are good Because http://www.greatschools.org... so. "A 2005 study, on the other hand, indicates that in some Ohio high schools uniforms may have improved graduation and attendance rates" [1] Come on, the website is called GREAT SCHOOLS. Great schools are great for a reason, and they think uniforms are good. I think they are too. Now to my oppenent's argument. "uniforms are not good for kids because the kids cant express themselves in the way they want to" I can express myself perfectly with or without a uniform. "Uniforms do not look nice" When I saw this, I was like... Say Wwhhaaat? (with an accent on the Wh like when people say howite instead of white so conjugated, this would be huwat) I truly belive... that that black belt over there is one of the nicest belts created by mankind. The shoes also look nice. They give people better hops which will boost their self confidence. And the shirt? It is always good because if the person somehow looses his/her memory, they will know what "A 2005 study, on the other hand, indicates that in some Ohio high schools uniforms may have improved graduation and attendance rates" [1] Come on, the website is called GREAT SCHOOLS. Great schools are great for a reason, and they think uniforms are good. I think they are too. Now to my oppenent's argument. "uniforms are not good for kids because the kids cant express themselves in the way they want to" I can express myself perfectly with or without a uniform. "Uniforms do not look nice" When I saw this, I was like... Say Wwhhaaat? (with an accent on the Wh like when people say howite instead of white so conjugated, this would be huwat) I truly belive... that that black belt over there is one of the nicest belts created by mankind. The shoes also look nice. They give people better hops which will boost their self confidence. And the shirt? It is always good because if the person somehow looses his/her memory, they will know what school they are in. Khaki pants are always good because if they are being chased by robbers they can hide and will blend in. Overall, school uniforms are great.
School UNiforms
I will accept your challenge that I do not believe there shouldnt be uniforms.
school uniforms
uniforms make me barf, and you will have to wash them every night! What a waste of water!!!!
Students should wear school uniforms.
What percentage of kids who do not wear uniforms kill themselves because of bullying about their clothes? Please back up your claim with clear evidence. If kids are being bullied because of what they are wearing - then they have several options before taking their lives: 1. telling a counselor or adult 2. switching outfits 3. defending themselves. Just because someone insults someone's outfit does not mean that they are going to kill themselves - and if that is the case then please prove it to me. The school systems right now in our country are an option - you can either go to private or public school. Under ammendment 1 of the constitution - every citizen in the united states has the freedom of speech, press, and religion. What clothes we wear is considered to be freedom of speech since we are expressing whom we are. If we make all schools provide their students with uniforms - then we are taking away the student's rights of freedom of speech, violating ammendment one of our constitution. Making this action highly unconstitutional. We should leave it at a choice for a parent to decide for their kid to go to a Just because someone insults someone's outfit does not mean that they are going to kill themselves - and if that is the case then please prove it to me. The school systems right now in our country are an option - you can either go to private or public school. Under ammendment 1 of the constitution - every citizen in the united states has the freedom of speech, press, and religion. What clothes we wear is considered to be freedom of speech since we are expressing whom we are. If we make all schools provide their students with uniforms - then we are taking away the student's rights of freedom of speech, violating ammendment one of our constitution. Making this action highly unconstitutional. We should leave it at a choice for a parent to decide for their kid to go to a school where they wear a uniform or not because then freedom is still in everyone's hands and they can choose if they want to wear a uniform or not. Making kids wear a uniform will not decrease the amound of suicide in our youth - it is a much more complex issue then that.
School uniforms should be required
Due to personal reasons, I will be having to leave debate.org for the time being. That being said, I will be unable to complete any sort of argument. My opponent has made a great argument. I do believe that That being said, I will be unable to complete any sort of argument. My opponent has made a great argument. I do believe that school uniforms should not be implemented for the reasons I listed above. It's up to you the reader to decide whether you agree with Roy or myself. However you decide though, I'm sure it will be the best choice. I apologize to Roy for having to do this. Thank you
Should every children wear school uniforms at every school
while I do find some of your points valid, Here my rebuttals for some I disagree with: ==Style Students who are in a district with a strict uniform policy lose their ability to express their individuality through fashion. In some regards, School uniforms teach students that it is more important to think and act like a group instead of thinking and acting like an individual. Although there are many influences that can shape mob thinking patterns, This type of policy can be a foundational element of it if the uniform policies are not carefully introduced and monitored. Some accessories for girls are considered inappropriate. And as genders increase, Uniforms get complicated and it seems much easier to be able to get your our choice upon stuff. ==Why wear uniforms? What's the point? In our life, We will be faced with millions of choices, But how will we face THOSE, If we still have our clothes chosen for us. We need to learn our independence before learning our restrictions. There are 4/10 chances that groups of students will get in a risky situation in school hours. While no "what ifs" should be taken and student safety Is outmost of many concern, There are other ways, Some which may even be better. ==bullying "Bullying occurs whether students wear uniforms or not. The root cause of bullying should be addressed. Teens should be able to develop self-expression and their personal identity. . . . Today's school uniforms seem more a punitive measure meant to deny students their right to freedom of expression" -The Internet ==Solution As a 7th grader in a private school, The high schoolers who go there DO HAVE TO WEAR UNIFORMS. It is not a concern of whether if it gets better or not, I should not have to get better.
School Uniforms should be allowed in Shcool
The Laws that our founders lay down as they created this country, the declaration, the bill of rights, and even freedom will be breached because of school uniforms. I thought america was the land of the free, the land where we can express ourselves, the land where forcing people to go against common sense is illegal. If you allow school uniforms in school, than you must not have read the laws that our founders made. According To a translation of Laws courtesy by the ACLU, First, freedom of expression is the foundation of self-fulfillment. Self- expression enables an individual to realize his or her full potential as a human being. The right of individuals to express their thoughts, desires, and aspirations, and to communicate freely with others, affirms the dignity and worth of each and every member of society. Thus, freedom of expression is an end in itself and should not be subordinated to any other goals of society. Second, freedom of expression is vital to the attainment and advancement of knowledge. The eminent 19th century civil libertarian, John Stuart Mill, contended that enlightened judgment is possible only if one considers all facts and ideas, from whatever source, and tests one's own conclusions against opposing views. But the right to express oneself is not conditioned on the content of one's views, which may be true or false, "good" or "bad," socially useful or harmful. All points of view should be represented in the "marketplace of ideas" so that society can benefit from debate about their worth. Third, freedom of expression is necessary to our system of self-government. If the American people are to be truly sovereign, the masters of their fate and of their elected government, they must be well-informed. They must have access to all information, ideas and points of view. The precondition for a free society is an informed and enlightened citizenry. Tyrannies thrive on mass ignorance. This shows that if you implement uniforms on all schools, people will begin ignoring the laws because if the government can break it, than they can. Vote For Freedom Of Expression On My Side
School Uniforms Shouldn't Be Required
I thank 9spaceking for his response. 1. I thank you for conceding so graciously, I admire you for doing so. I do however remind the voters that this was one major argument presented by 9spaceking and therefore since he has conceded it, the voters should give me extra points. 2. I believe you are making a mistake here, your argument is unsupported greatly. Firstly the testimony of a parent is hardly evidence. Also let us understand that we should not live on extremes, the Uniform only gives a sense of conformity it does not automatically make a person into a robot, to insinuate such is wrong. My opponent actually concedes to the fact that it does create unity, his only argument is that it creates too much unity to the point where everyone becomes robotic. I think I tackled this when I talked about how living on such extremes is incorrect. In any case let us not forget that these children have individual personalities, and wear their own accessories, and wear what they want at home. This way the children get a place where they may express themselves, and they get a sense of conformity from their School. I believed I also talked about how many children take pride in their uniforms. If a student studies in St. Marks one of the best private schools in America they would do so quite pridefully. It so is that 9spaceking's argument does not stand. 3. The link still does not work. In any case the link is useless so long as its argumentation is not summarized. While you may have presented a link as a supporting argument of proof, you need to mention that proof and give a summary. As you have failed to do so in the first rounds, I cannot but ask the voters to disregard this link. 4. My opponent concedes the point that uniforms do help in discipline, taking the analogy works because it shows that uniforms do at the end give children discipline. Is 9spaceking trying to avow that students do not need discipline? 5. I want to begin by saying that source 9 of round 1 does not exist. Secondly I want to assert that it will make a difference to more than 160,000 students as shown in my earlier sources. I think this is a sizeable number, we dtop bullying every way we can, it seems my opponent has conceded this. 6. Firstly lets understand that 9spaceking admits his own numbers in Round 1 were flawed. Now we need to realize that clothes in such poor families are often shared, if a child grows up his clothes are given to the younger siblings. Also the contentions work for ordinary clothes as well. Seeing how by his statistic the clothes are only twice the amount of one month of ordinary clothes the family can save up and in the summer. Ordinary clothes get ripped as well. 9spaceking's stats were way off, an average American spend 2,000 dollars on clothes per year. This compared to 160$$ is such that 160$$ always wins. Also since schools are the major place for which clothes are bought this amount drops to 800$, even if you add the 160$ this makes 960$ per year which is still 1040$ less than what an average American would spend on normal clothes. Another source says students have to spend nearly 250$ a month on clothes for school alone (this 72$ figure is way off), and this puts unnecessary pressure especially on girls. Then there is this third source which claims that this mom has to spend a whooping 1400 pounds for her children's clothes to school. This makes an average of 221$ per month. So the 72$ stat is way off, the comparison is between 72$ per month and 14$ per month, I think the voters can realize what is cheaper. [1]http://money.howstuffworks.com... [2]http://inhabitat.com... [3]http://slummysinglemummy.com... 7. Here my opponent shows that he agrees with me on principle, just not on practice. By giving an argument on how the practice is difficult to enforce he shows he does not have any arguments against the principle. As this debate uses the word 'should' it is a debate of principle as this point becomes moot. In any case while this may be in America, many schools around the world use uniforms and students conform to them. It is after all not that difficult to enforce. Also I have already spoken about how it is not so severe that students will get tattoos just because they are asked to wear uniform, no one in my school has yet done such a thing to the best of my knowledge. Also students are allowed to wear bangles or earring or watches which allow them to express themselves. The personality also matters and it grows, also since students can wear ordinary clothes at home this problem only appears to be one, and does not stand. 8. These girls seem: a. hot, b. comfortable. Most uniforms are comfortable and by the list my opponent has shown there is a slight selection on whether to wear t-shirts, shirts, or sweatshirts. So this point also does not stand. I thank my opponent once more, he has been most gracious! The resolution however collapses. Ajab
School Uniforms
First of all, thank you stew95 for accepting my debate. You said, "if you were to go to school without a uniform then anyone could easily walk in a do anything!" However, I disagree with the exclusiveness of this applying to only schools without unifroms. Anyone with enough money for a school uniform could go buy one, then walk in. The same thing happens in Boy Scouts. Last summer, when we went to Scout Camp, they made us check in for wristbands, as well as wear the uniform, so they knew A) we were scouts, and B) we had checked into a campsite that was reserved. So obviously, the unifrom doesn't actually prove you are a student. A student I.D. would be more effective. For your second argument, "i mean it would also cause alot of groups/gangs because you could tell who is gothic, neddy, ect..." I believe you meant that it would NOT cause the gangs/groups you mentioned. i disagree, for the following reason: if you want to do something, and you are prohibited, will you not try to find a loophole to try and get around that hole? If a gang wants to make itself seperate, they will give themself a different marker than baggy jeans, like bracelets, necklaces, rings, etc. A point I would like to bring up is that of actual education. You may not think that a school uniform can interfere with an education, but consider this: in America,there are an average of 180 school days a year (according to http://ask.yahoo.com...), if you spend even only 20 minutes inspecting a class of thirty students to make sure their uniforms are all being worn correctly, assuming it takes about forty seconds per student, then you have wasted, on average, 2 hours per class the students are inspected in. Now some schools may only do the aforementioned inspection during the first class. Others may do it for all eight periods, adding up to 16 hours. People already complain that education money is being wasted, what will they say when so much time is being wasted on inspection. It doesn't contribute to your education in the slightest. I await my opponents next argument.
