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Feminism

NOTE: I would like for my opponent, Pro, to give textual evidence as to why feminism is a logical and correct argument, Setup: Round 1: Con's Setup Pro's Acceptance + Beginning Arguments Round 2: Con's Beginning Arguments Pro's Rebuttal Round 3: Con's Rebuttal Pro's Final Words Round 4: Con's Final Words Pro says, "This debate is over."' NOTE: Pro, please leave your section for round 4 as I just stated it, "This debate is over.", nothing more.

Feminism: Positive or Negative

I am not going by the traditional definition of feminism. Because if I did, I would classify as a feminist. If feminists actually lived up to the dictionary definition of feminism, then people would not have such a problem with them. I am going by the so called "tumblr feminists" or radical feminists. Feminism is supposed to mean equality for women " that"s the same social, economical, political, workplace and home life benefits as men. It"s supposed to mean that women get treated the same as a gender that, since history began, has had the upper hand. There"s no denying we as a society are almost there " yes, there"s still more men in senior positions at the biggest companies in the world, and yes there"s more stay-at-home women than men, but women are entitled to everything men are, give or take a few things. But the new definition of feminism promotes a hatred of men, just because their men. It may come as a surprise to some people that I call myself "Masculistfeminist" whilst I have systematically criticized the feminist movement and advocated for men"s rights. Why have I done that? To demonstrate what someone would actually do, if they saw the state of the feminist movement at the moment and actually lived up to the dictionary definition of the word feminism that so-called "feminists" hide behind. If feminists were authentic and transparent individuals, then they would be criticizing their own movement and actively attempting to change it. Bigots and hypocrites are using the word feminism to disguise their actions under a banner of equality and are using this banner as a shield to not only deflect any criticism of their actions, but to also ostracize critics and falsely label them as misogynists. So I thought I would claim the word feminism back from these gender ideologues and return it to society. They are using feminism to disguise their double standards. They are also disgracefully using this tarnished banner of equality as a weapon to silence critics. Polls in the US reflect that only 23% of women classify themselves as feminists and you have to really wonder why. If feminism was really about women"s rights based on the principle of equality between the sexes, then why are not all women feminists? I assume women care about their rights. There are many reasons for why women don"t identify with feminism, but they all seem to have a common theme. Feminism does not represent women. Why? There are so many reasons that I could probably write a hundred hubs on that question alone. However to summarize, most women don"t hate men. Therefore most women find it relatively difficult to blindly follow feminist dogma, patriarchy theory, rape culture, the threat narrative of male oppression and the encouragement that goes along with it to develop a mindset that men are the enemy. Secondly most women don"t like to think of themselves as powerless and helpless victims. Most women are aware that their gender has always had power in society and that this was merely a less overt form of power in comparison to that of men. Most women like to think of themselves as possessing self-determination and prefer to not regard themselves as mindless puppets or victims of the patriarchy or men. Perhaps the number one gripe women have with feminism that I have come across, is that feminism actually tells women what to do with their own lives and judges them on it. Feminism pressures women to conform to some ideal image of what a woman should be and if women don"t conform to that role or behave in the manner feminists approve of, then they are letting the sisterhood down. No wonder women are resentful of the feminist movement. These women are judging other women. Then again I am a man, what would I know? As feminists will say, I should check my male privilege!

Is feminism needed in today's society

While yes, feminism is a battle for equality of the sexes, nowadays it's all about female supremacy. It's been hijacked by radical "feminazis" who are still pushing for women's rights today which is pointless as it is as equal as we're going to get. That being said, my opponent states that feminism is needed to main the status quo. If that is true which I'm not denying, meninism is also required to maintain the same standards ultimately cancelling the two out. Why have feminism, a push for equality, when we're already equal. If feminism was a rally for maintaining equality for both sexes, then it would be necessary but in modern days, it's very unnecessary.

Feminism is not pointless

I thank Charlie_Danger for accepting. Feminism has created a breed of women known as Feminazis. These women create vile double standards about men and how they should be treated in regards to women. These women have created vile and detestable things such as: The stitch and bi*ch Changing wife beaters to "white" beater and truly the list goes on. Feminism is pointless because it is no longer accomplishing the goals it set out to. We now just have a bunch of short haired women who yell about how men should be castrated and that chivalry is dead.

Modern Feminism

Your argument saying that it's basically okay to want female superiority, does in fact show that modern feminists are BAD! I am not going to go into extensive details on quotes and such but 1. The wage gap is a myth created to divide us as a people. 2. The difference between Hillary and Sarah is that Hillary is a democrat and known for living off other peoples money and Sarah is a hard working republican. Modern feminism, once again, wants EVERYTHING handed to them. Real feminism wants a CHANCE (which they have equally) to be successful and want to earn everything they are given. Thank you.

Feminism is cancer of contemporary society

Feminism is not encouraging hate against men, its main goal is to help bring women equal to men. The debate is the fact that men are scared that they are going to lose their rights as women gain theirs. However, that is not the case. Feminism is not ignoring the issues men have faced - they are focusing more on the fact that women are a discriminated majority. In todays society feminism is a must. Everyday women are being discriminated against without them even knowing. Girls grow up knowing its safer to give a guy a FAKE phone number than to turn it down.... Yeah nothing is wrong there. They are taught that its better to tell a guy you have a boyfriends then to say you're not interested. Women are oppressed, feminism is not the victimization of women, it is a movement to empower people to define, establish, and defend equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. Radical feminists who attack men and wish to be superior are not true feminists. It is beneficial to both genders. Those who believe feminism is a movement that discriminates men have not been exposed to genuine feminism.