PRO

  • PRO

    But then, if they're all wearing uniforms, doesn't that...

    School Uniforms are a Good Idea.

    Hi there, thanks for starting this debate! So, let me start with....why doesn't anyone ever think about what the kids want? Blah blah blah, bullying and safety, stuff like that. But then, if they're all wearing uniforms, doesn't that make them all look like clones? Also, the uniforms will cost money, and they'll have to wash them often. Their parents won't get away from buying regular clothes either- no kid will want to wear their school uniform on the weekend or during summer. So, good luck =)!

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms-are-a-Good-Idea./1/
  • PRO

    This can take multiple different forms, whether social or...

    Mandatory School Uniforms are beneficial to schooling

    I realize now that the argument I wanted to use for my previous shool uniform debate doesn't actually apply under my resolution. So rather than go through the awkwardness of saying that in the debate and hoping for a tie, I decided to create a new resolution to boost the number of debates I participate in during my membership. Resolved: Mandatory School Uniforms are beneficial to schooling Now has come the time for definitions to be had: Mandatory: necessary, compulsory School Uniforms: outfits mandated by the school to apply to all same-gendered students alike, that is unique to each school. Beneficial: do more good than harm Schooling: the act of learning from a school system's curriculum. This can take multiple different forms, whether social or academic. The first round shall be for acceptance by my opponent. Second round shall be for case positions only, meaning my opponent may not refute my case during that round. From there, all arguments, whether refutation or reconstruction, are valid and permissible. I merely ask that the final round include no new arguments. The burden of proof for this debate will be shared between myself and my opponent. I must defend a case where the uniforms are beneficial and my opponent must advocate for a case proving that they are, indeed, detrimental. I now await an opponent.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Mandatory-School-Uniforms-are-beneficial-to-schooling/1/
  • PRO

    The truths are self-evident that students should not be...

    School uniforms should not be allowed in schools

    School uniforms are costly ( contrary to popular belief), destroys personality, the list goes on. The truths are self-evident that students should not be forced wear uniforms, and in the case were schools make uniforms mandatory the students do not even have a say in the matter. It is unjust to make students go through such an attack on their freedoms.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms-should-not-be-allowed-in-schools/1/
  • PRO

    Children can then be bullied for being different, which...

    School uniforms create a sense of equality

    School catchment areas are diverse and in private schools, some children are there on a scholarship. So, without uniforms there are clear indicators of wealth between what children wear. This makes poorer children stand out, (or even possibly the reverse). Children can then be bullied for being different, which diminishes a child's enjoyment of school. A study in New York has shown that 84% of parents think uniforms promote equality, and 89% of guidance counselors think uniforms help teach children to be more accepting of others who are less fortunate[3]. This perception among parents will help create the same perception among their children. This is also likely to translate to the teachers who will therefore treat their pupils more equally. improve this  

  • PRO

    If a school has a uniform, parents are expected to buy...

    School uniforms are often expensive

    If a school has a uniform, parents are expected to buy it, and then buy a new one every time their child outgrows the last. This can be expensive. It has been reported that parents in South Africa[10], Australia[11], and the U.K[12]. have to pay a lot of money for their children's school uniforms, and it is probably the same in other countries too.  

  • PRO

    From Grade school through HS, uniforms were the norm....

    School Uniforms – Yes

    From Grade school through HS, uniforms were the norm. Everyone in school was equal. Rich, Poor, Handicap, etc. – everyone is equal. Today, a pair of $300 nike’s, cellphone and a Chrysler 300 with chrome rims seperate your from the pack. Why? What does that teach? What did the child learn? As a parent, are you succeeding by enabling?

    • https://debatewise.org/3367-school-uniforms-should-be-mandatory/
  • PRO

    School Uniforms should be required in all education...

    School Uniforms Shouldn't be Required.

    School Uniforms should be required in all education institutions for the following reasons: i) They bring unity and uniformity within the school community ii) They destroy social barriers and puts everyone on an equal paying field in terms of clothing iii) They hide the poor backgrounds of certain students which protects them from ridicule. iv) Since certain social barriers have been destroyed. This less distractions from study and other scholarly duties.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms-Shouldnt-be-Required./1/
  • PRO

    When mentioning Long beach, California, I wasn't...

    School Uniforms

    When mentioning Long beach, California, I wasn't contrasting it from other states. I was simply explaining the impact that school uniforms potentially had on a neighborhood. Secondly, abuse and discipline are two different things. Although some people may argue that it is a form of discipline, abuse does not necessarily correspond with it. As you stated, "depression and PTSD are some of the long term effects when discipline becomes abuse", shows that abuse is the reason of the depression and not the discipline itself. Ask yourself, would you discipline your children? Or would you let them tell you what they want to wear because their friends are all wearing it. If you think about it they wear a uniform whether it's identical or not.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/32/
  • PRO

    there I agree with you, my friend, that clothes help to...

    school uniforms should be mandatory

    "schools should be schools and not fashion shows!" there I agree with you, my friend, that clothes help to express but somewhere down there students become intimated by the fact of dressing up well for the there I agree with you, my friend, that clothes help to express but somewhere down there students become intimated by the fact of dressing up well for the school. rather uniforms help students to concentrate more on studies rather than on clothes, it creates a uniformity and a discipline in the school campus. also it saves time in a way children don't have to think much.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/school-uniforms-should-be-mandatory/1/
  • PRO

    You are only half correct. It is my evil twin brother who...

    TROLL DEBATE: School Uniforms Should Not Be Required

    >:) You are only half correct. It is my evil twin brother who is the evil scientist. However, it must be noted no person wearing a school uniform is happy. Look at all those federal law cases: a boy complaining about his school emblem, a parent complaining about the school emblem--again, and other parents complaining about school uniform prices. Only administrators agree that school uniforms are good. But again, this is only part of his malicious plot--he makes people think that there are two sides to the school uniform, but in reality, school uniforms are terrible. I, the genius lawyer extremely versatile in the constitution, encourage you all to vote the USA government to not require school uniforms before he takes over the world. But again, he has a plan b, which he will tell no one... However, he does give a hint about it: it involves turning the school uniforms alive as demonstrated in this photo: A victim of the genius scientist's prototype. No one knows what happened to him. We must ban school uniforms before he can do plan a, and what's worse, his plan B!! (which is actually way more destructive than plan a.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/TROLL-DEBATE-School-Uniforms-Should-Not-Be-Required/1/

CON

  • CON

    Second hand stores and yard sales can have hidden gems...

    Uniforms in school

    I will not argue that uniforms can be cheaper, but a smart shopper could pick up clothes for cheap to. Second hand stores and yard sales can have hidden gems for less than a uniform as well. Also some uniforms, thought not all, students might find uncomfortable like ones with ties. Being uncomfortable and sitting for hours a day make for a unsatisfactory learning interment.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Uniforms-in-school/2/
  • CON

    If parents help students choose what to wear, then the...

    School uniforms should be banned

    Yes, wearing hair accessories, bracelets, etc is always limited. If there are just a few color that are allowed to be worn at most schools, then that isn’t a uniform, that is a dress code. You are contradicting yourself. About boys wearing hair accessories, I agree that it might be pretty weird. But they sure can wear some sort of chain necklace if they are rebellious or some weird Star Wars bracelet if they like Star Wars. Yes, students that join a club might also be forced to use a uniform. Let’s say a student joins an art club. An art club usually encourages students to express themselves through art. An art club usually makes some sort of art show to expose the student’s art. When that happens, students express themselves through art. Another example is a debate club. If you join a debate club, you express and defend your opinions. Debate clubs usually have small debates within themselves or a serious debate with another school. There, students get to know each other. Clothing does represent style in some ways but style doesn’t only show with clothing. For example, if you see someone running in a different style than the others and he/she appears faster than the others, you could say he/she is in a cross country team and is trained in a special way. *style can also mean the way you dosomething If the school joins everyone together for pick-up, it is hard. But, let’s say you are in the mall or a public place and you are looking for someone. Obviously, they all won’t be wearing uniforms. But it is still hard to find them, right? If parents help students choose what to wear, then the student isn’t really expressing his/her style. He/she is expressing their parents. If the uniform that the student bought the first and/or second time, they can return it to the store and buy the correct one for the same price. Again, in order to look their best, this will take time to choose and outfit, which leads back to my previous argument. (If parents help students choose what to wear, then the student isn’t really expressing his/her style. He/she is expressing their parents.) The only occasion you see people from other schools is outside schools. Outside from schools, students don’t have to wear uniforms, so students from other schools won’t make fun of the school. Unless you tell them. If uniforms are ugly, a group of students could make a petition and convince people to sign it in order for a new design to be created and made. School uniforms do save class time. If teachers check if they are using the uniform, it’s probably quick. All they need to do is look at the students. If she spots one that isn’t wearing the uniform, then it will be easy to spot. This won’t take much time Yes, a school’s purpose is to educate. But if there were no forced conditions, a school would be messed up. Things such as stealing and bullying would happen. They do happen, but people are around to stop it. Yes, attire doesn’t interfere with education; no matter what you are wearing, you will end up learning (if you are paying attention). But, again, if attire took time to decide, then you would lose valuable class time. That interferes with education. Of course, there are other ways to feel part of the school community. Let’s put it this way: If you are part of a soccer team and the way you are officially part of it is being “blessed” with the uniform. If don’t wear your uniform, doesn’t that mean that anyone could be part of that soccer team? “Teachers can not only be impress with school uniform presentation, they can…” You agree. Teachers can be impressed. About the other part, what about kids that don’t dress well? The teachers won’t be so proud. FOCUS If you look at other people’s clothing during class because it’s pretty or it says something interesting, you will get distracted and miss the class. If your school used uniforms, then you have nothing to worry about. NO PRESSURE “When everyone is dressed the same, worrying about what you look like isn't so important. There is no competition about being dressed in the latest trend.”, reports TheGuardian. SOURCES: https://www.theguardian.com... http://www.dictionary.com... Note 2: ¡Gracias otra vez y buena suerte! No sabia que tu sabias español, es uno de los 3 idiomas que yo se. Aunque no podamos argumentar usando español, si tienes que usar una palabra en español yo la entiendo. ¡Buena suerte otra vez!

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms-should-be-banned/6/
  • CON

    My opponent's first paragraph consists entirely of...

    School uniforms ought to be worn in primary and secondary schools.

    My opponent's first paragraph consists entirely of arguments that I have already adequately refuted, so I will not be responding to it in detail. "The robe is considered a reminder of the law and a symbol of neutrality." Maybe so. But my core argument still applies: a judge is not an appropriate analogy to a student. Students do not require the same sort of differentiation. Students are not meant to be faceless upholders of the law: each student is a unique individual, and school uniforms spit in the face of individuality. "Con argues that if special apparel enhances judicial thinking, then it should be applied to juries as well." Yes, and special apparel does not necessarily enhance judicial thinking in the case of a jury. "As in the Old West, law enforcement can be identified by those wearing a badge and carrying a gun." And indeed, police frequently wear only a badge and a gun as recognizable characteristics. But as a means of identification, this is far slower and more difficult, and inadequate in many situations. "The military battle dress uniforms are camouflaged, making the soldier harder to identify, not easier." This argument is self-refuting. Soldiers do not wear camouflage because it is a symbol of their position; they wear camouflage so that the enemy cannot see them. "Many have no need to be identified by the public at all, like airline pilots and chefs." A pilot's uniform is somewhat simpler, and more akin to a suit. It is used as a simple recognition of job status. Chefs wear uniforms for various reasons: they are authority figures, they are the center of the kitchen, or they do not want to get food on a nice suit or even a normal outfit. "[T]he five top countries in eighth grade math are [...] Taiwan, Singapore, S. Korea, Hong Kong, and Japan; all having school uniforms." This is mere correlation. It is possible that high performance led to the implementation of school uniforms or that some third factor, such as cultural ideals, led to both. I see both of these as more sensical than that school uniforms caused an increase in performance. For instance, Japanese schools last 240 days of the year as opposed to a mere 180 days [2]. This is a credible cause for increased performance. "Con argues that having uniforms would encourage competition among schools. That is desirable, because it provides additional motivation for students to excel." I happen to disagree. But to accept my opponent's standpoint raises the question, Why is it not desirable for students to compete on a more individual level? Schools are really more about individualism, and no student is ultimately responsible for another student's success. Individual-level competition, by my opponent's standpoint, is more desirable. "The main factor [in educational performance] is focus and discipline." Focus is most likely important. But why discipline? Only a relatively small fraction of students have real difficulty with authority. For others, relatively minor discipline is adequate, which means that school uniforms as a means of discipline are unnecessary. Additionally, this claim seems contradictory with the claim that school uniforms promote identity. Discipline is usually disliked. (What student wants to be restricted and punished?) Further enforcement of discipline would lead to dislike of and separatism from one's school, which is the very opposite of identity. I completely fail to see how school uniforms will increase focus. "[T]he before-and-after experience in Long Beach and Baltimore shows that in less disciplined public schools they are an important factor." This is an important point, and it is therefore worth mentioning that I refuted it in round 2. "We therefore expect that uniforms will have the greatest impact in schools that lack focus, and the least impact in schools that achieve focus through parental involvement. The methodology of Brunsma and Rockquemore was to compare Catholic schools having and not having uniforms to show that uniforms were not the decisive factor". -I fail to see why that is what we expect. -Brunsma and Rockquemore did have a large sample of Catholic schools, but they also included many other schools in their study. {quote} (3) Con argues, "The concept of fashion trends being distracting is pure fiction. Distractions occur due to boring material or boring teachers, and school uniforms don't fix that." So are we to conclude that eighth grade mathematics in Taiwan and Japan is much more exciting than it is in the United States? An that the excitement is intensified by having much larger classes with less student-teacher interaction?{/quote} No, we are not to conclude that. My opponent has put forth a false dichotomy. The increase in test scores can be attributed to many factors more feasible than school uniforms: longer school hours, a higher cultural value on scholastic success, etc. "The less of [fashion trends], the better." Maybe, maybe not. But requiring that students wear uniforms will do very little, if anything, to curtail students' desire for fashionableness. "(4) Con suggests that the rich be taxed to pay for the school uniforms of poor students. That sounds good to me. Agreed." So that contention is conceded? This still leaves the problem that school uniforms cost more, all things considered. "Requiring uniforms takes one expensive item off the agenda for discussion and compromise." Why? Buying a uniform in no way reduces a student's desire to be fashionable. The uniform is only an added expense. "Con argues that uniforms limit self-expression. This is admitting it is a distraction from education." It is a large leap to go from self-expression to distraction. This leap requires justification. "In school, the focus should be on school as a profession." It is true that the primary purpose of school is to provide an education. But it need not be stifling. In fact, if a school is more enjoyable and less stifling, learning is made easier and more comfortable. "School uniforms do limit diversity, just as do police uniforms, military uniforms, and judicial robes." Did my opponent not state that "the judge represents and embodies the court as a whole, not the individual person any longer"? When individuality is removed, diversity is removed. "If expressing oneself through clothing is not allowed, that only leaves intellectual, academic, and social mechanisms for creativity." This is another false dichotomy. It also leaves means that can be harmful, such as inappropriate behavior or violence as means of expression. School uniforms, as I have shown, limit diversity, stifle individuality and cause far more harm than good. [1] http://www.gate.net... [2] http://sitemaker.umich.edu...

  • CON

    On the Long Beach Study: My reason for questioning the...

    School uniforms ought to be worn in primary and secondary schools.

    On the Long Beach Study: My reason for questioning the Long Beach study is not merely because I "don't see it", but is because there is no evidence that school uniforms are responsible for the change in behavior. The study only took two data samples which were six years apart, so it is irrational to jump to the conclusion that school uniforms caused the miraculous change. The change is more likely due to an increase in school security or education school programs [1] [2]. It is worth noting that a possible cause of the changes is the "educational reforms" my opponent refers to in round 1. My opponent dismisses this: "If dramatic improvement could be achieved effortlessly, the 'reforms' would surely be adopted universally, which they were not." This logic is flawed for several reasons. 1. The same logic can be applied to school uniforms: if school uniforms really caused the dramatic improvement, they would be adopted universally, which they were not. Since school uniforms were not adopted universally, then by my opponent's own logic they are not beneficial and my opponent's entire case is shattered. 2. It is possible that the LBUSD was not aware that the educational reforms had caused the improvement; they clearly believe that it was due to the uniform policy. There are several possible causes of this, notably a bias caused by the great parental support of school uniforms. Regardless of whether there was a bias, it is highly likely that the LBUSD misattributed school uniforms as the cause, causing most people to ignore any other possibility. While it is true that I did not offer rebuttal evidence, I do not need any, as my opponent has failed to show the causation between school uniforms and increased performance. He asks that his claim be accepted without any proof of causation, and this request is absolutely ridiculous. ====== On the Baltimore Study: All references to the Baltimore Study should be discarded due to lack of supporting evidence. ====== On the Brunsma and Rockquemore Study: My opponent claims that the study is biased; however, this is unwarranted. My opponent's only reason for claiming that they were biased is that B&R thought that in Long Beach, "educational reforms" were more likely responsible for the change than school uniforms. But I already refuted this point in "On the Long Beach Study". My opponent's rebuttal is inadequate, merely reiterating points which I have already refuted. B&R shall be accepted as valid evidence. ====== On East Asia: As I have previously stated, the high educational performance in countries such as Japan and Taiwan should not be attributed to school uniforms, and are more likely due to cultural paradigms. See my explanation in round 3. East Asians place great emphasis on discipline and conformity. Americans place emphasis on individuality; every student is pushed to succeed. These vast cultural differences are probably responsible for the difference in performance; it takes a leap of faith to attribute performance to mere uniforms. ====== On Student Desire for Uniforms: My opponent argues that students do not always know what is in their own best interest. He makes a fair case, but of course I never argued that students' desires were important. It is a weak argument, and of course my opponent was able to refute it. ====== On Diversity/Self-Expression: Limitations on diversity lead to students feeling oppressed, even if it is only in dress. Oppression leads to disorder, struggle and rebellion. "[I]f a student wants his school to do well. . . " Forced limitations of self-expression lead to a desire to distance oneself from one's school, not to a sense of school spirit. "I did not propose a dichotomy. I [said] that the academic benefit of diversity is in intellectual considerations, not traditional costumes." That is not what my opponent said: "If expressing oneself through clothing is not allowed, that only leaves intellectual, academic, and social mechanisms for creativity." In response to his new point, of course I agree. But he is limiting his scope to academic benefit. Students must not be stifled, or they will suffer. This will indirectly but inevitably lead to a decline in performance. ====== On School Cooperation: My opponent makes some interesting points on the detriments of individual competition. However, they are not advantages for group competition; they are merely disadvantages for individual competition. Schoolwide cooperation is useful, as my opponent has shown. And I agree that competition between schools can lead to cooperation within schools; but there are harmful side effects of inter-school competition, and there are other ways to promote cooperation. School competition can lead to problems, as seen in competition between sports teams; people supporting sports teams sometimes get aggressive towards the opposing team, and in rare cases even kill them [3]. But cooperation can be encouraged in a safer way. For example, there could be some schoolwide goal which must be met. Or there could be an attempt to score better than the previous year. These means enjoy the benefits of competition without the negative side effects. ====== On Discipline: My opponent has put forth no evidence that school uniforms lead to an increase in discipline. His only evidence is that East Asian schools are more disciplined and they use school uniforms, but I destroyed the possibility of causation in my East Asia section. "Members of highly disciplined professions like police and the military take pride in their uniforms because they recognize that their professions benefit from." At first, this claim sounds convincing. But we should remember that my opponent has brought forward zero evidence to support this claim. "Are the children of parents who impose little discipline in fact happier than those who receive reasonable discipline? They are not." Once again, my opponent lacks evidence. But even with evidence, there is still no causal link between school uniforms and "reasonable discipline". ====== On Costs: "They may desire to be fashionable, but the ability to express the desire will be significantly limited by disallowing it at school." It does not, however, limit their desire nor their ability to purchase fashionable clothing, so expenses remain the same. "Baltimore parents paid for poor students uniforms and [it] lowered their overall costs." This claim is unsupported. In the end, my opponent's arguments about uniforms reducing costs are silly. First, there is no logical way that buying additional material can reduce costs. Second, the matter is trivial. The cost of uniforms was never a major contention for either side. ====== Conclusion My opponent's arguments against my case rely on leaps of faith, and severely lack evidence. My opponent repeats points that I have already refuted; his entire first paragraph is an example of this. He claims "evidence of experience", despite the fact that he has consistently failed to produce any evidence whatsoever. The Long Beach study unjustifiably makes the leap from correlation to causation, and my opponent has not discussed the Baltimore study at all. In essence, my opponent's case has fallen out from under him, despite his attempts to support it with pretty words and made-up evidence. My case still stands: school uniforms stifle self-expression; the Brunsma and Rockquemore study showed minimal correlation between uniforms and performance; and, of course, thou shalt not create unnecessary entities. After the fall of my opponent's case, the school uniform is an unnecessary entity. Resolution negated.

  • CON

    I don't think schools should have uniforms because an...

    School Uniforms

    I don't think schools should have uniforms because an outfit doesn't help you learn. Teens and kids should have the right to dress the way they want to. Your outfit expresses you and your personality. Uniforms don't help your education AT ALL, so what's the point of wearing them?

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/41/
  • CON

    Also you haven't touched off my second part of the point...

    School uniforms should not be allowed in schools

    I would like to thank my opponent for his response. Now I will give my rebuttal. 1) in relation to my point that "school uniforms save both time and money" you say that there is many types of uniforms that pay a whole lot of money as opposed to normal clothes which are cheaper. You also say that "The family will still buy regular clothes because since the student will probably want to wear something more comfortable in their free time". This is not the case. If you think about it, students wearing normal clothes to school everyday of the week results in a much higher demand for clothes to be washed and ready. This means that sooner or later clothing outfits will be used up and there will be a need to buy more clothes. Whereas with the uniform, it solves the potential problem of constant washing and availability of clothes. Despite it's initial cost, it saves money in the long run there will no demand to buy extra clothing. Also you haven't touched off my second part of the point that uniform also saves time so that still stands. 2) I never once claimed that uniforms will end social class discrimination, I merely said that it fixes the problem of students being embarrassed about their clothes. Therefore the uniform reduces the perceptive division of social class as every student is wearing the same thing. You say "Families who have less money can only afford to pay for a couple complete uniforms options thus making the student wear the same outfit often causing it to get more worn and more used thus causing wear so the outfit may be torn and worn out". I still attend school. I have 1 school jumper, 2 shirts and 2 pairs of trousers that last the whole school year. There is little to no wear or tear on them. If a student is careful with their uniform then it can last for a very long time. And of course if a family is scarce in money then I think we can safely say that in that case a uniform would be taken care of very well. Now of course bullying will always exist, with or without uniforms but nobody is talking about a uniform putting an end to bullying; just potentially reducing it on ONE level. If everyone wears the same clothes then it is harder to delineate social class division in theory. It's not a means to an end but at least it helps as opposed to non-uniform schools where picking out different social classes is much more evident. 3) Again yes there is always going to be a bullying problem but the uniform again reduces it on one aspect. Yes students can bully other students about many other things, but not about there clothes in this case so therefore this is a benefit. A student's own clothes do no such thing in hindering bullying. Yes people can hide weapons or drugs in backpacks but with the uniform it reduces the chance of weapons being on the students physical person which potentially reduces the ability of harming other students. Again a student's own clothes do no such thing. Yes uniforms can be stolen too but what do you think is more likely, that a student steals a uniform or that a student steals clothes that appeal to them such as designer sneakers, jackets etc. It is much more likely that student steals what they don't have than what they do have. Again as previously stated, schools where uniforms are required have seen a 95 percent decrease in crime, 90 percent decrease in suspensions, and vandalism on school property decreased by 69 percent. I would like to point out that my opponent has not shown any such statistics that favour non-uniform schools in his argument or cited source. Also I would like to say to my opponent that stating that bullying will exist anyway, or that uniforms can still be stolen etc. is not really making a case that "school uniforms should not be allowed in schools".

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms-should-not-be-allowed-in-schools/1/
  • CON

    Because students have the right to a free education, if...

    Public school students should wear uniforms

    My first argument is this: My school is a title school. This means that a lot of the kids that go to school come from lower income families. Because students have the right to a free education, if the school wanted the kids to wear uniforms then they must pay for it. Now lets look at a school system like mine with about 10,000 students. According to learningin21 "Uniform tops cost $26.99, uniforms bottoms cost $34.99 or $44.99, pullovers cost $39.99 and vest cost $35.99." Now each child will need about 3 outfits. This will cost a public school system greatly. Like I said, because you cannot deny children access to public education, the school system must pay for students who cannot afford these uniforms. Please keep in mind that I am only talking about public schools here. Private schools wearing uniforms is a totally different issue. :)

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Public-school-students-should-wear-uniforms/1/
  • CON

    Some students want to be different than others. ......

    students should not were uniforms in school

    "Uniforms prevent originality of a student. If you wear the clothes you want, it might show your personality and give you confidence. Some students want to be different than others. Uniforms makes you blend with others. The people who are different than others are usually the creative ones."-Pro I actually say the opposite, if you have to buy one outfit instead of a wardrobe full you'll have more money to spend on clothes at the weekend. Imagine all the nicer clothes you could get instead of cheaper replicas of converse and all the other things teens prefer to purchase these days. "I do not prefer uniforms because they are uncomfortable. If you are uncomfortable during school, it would be hard for you to study. It would be difficult to play sports and games in uniforms. In your casual clothing you have the freedom to wear clothes of your own choice. This is why many people prefer normal clothes"-Pro Obviously outside of school I prefer my own clothes-they're much more comfortable however in school a uniform is more useful. During PE and other sports we have a PE uniform which is better than playing in our clothes and staying in them all day, staying in the same clothes after PE is smelly and unsanitary. Especially considering that it is very likely you won't get changed when you return home.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/students-should-not-were-uniforms-in-school/1/
  • CON

    If they can't make fun of a person's clothes, then they...

    School Uniforms are a good idea

    In one of your rebuttals, you stated the following: "...in some schools they just have the children wear khaki pants and a specific color polo or cardigan." In your opening statement, however, you stated this: "In lower income communities uniforms could be a good idea because parents wouldn't have to worry about buying brand name clothing for their children and children wouldn't feel pressured to have brand name items to fit in because everyone would have the same clothing as they did." First you stated that there should not be competition of clothing styles in areas of education to prevent bullying. Then you said that a uniform does not have to be school-supplied; that you could just wear a certain color polo and khakis. It seems to me to be a contradiction when you say that one's clothes should be provided to him/her in attempt to avoid teasing and jealousy but likewise to that, you stated that students could provide their own uniform clothing. There are several different brands and styles of khakis, no? Couldn't someone get picked on for having a less-expensive, worn-out, pair of pants, and a moth-eaten polo from the 90's? There is no way to put an end to bullying. Bullies look at people under a microscope to pick these very small diversities that make make them the least bit different. If they can't make fun of a person's clothes, then they will make fun of their hair. If they can't make fun of their hair then they will make fun of their glasses. It's a continuous cycle and their is no way to stop it - and forcing students to wear uniforms, regardless of how generic they are, certainly isn't going to help either. In your second rebuttal, you stated that students could still be unique while having on a uniform. While I do think that that is partially true, I find it how much your clothes speak for your personality. You are familiar with Lady Gaga's meat dress, correct? What does that say about her? It says that she's a very whimsical character and tends to live on edge. I realize that you can also deduce that information from listening to her music, however, but think about all of the people that didn't even know who she was? Your clothes tend to work a lot of magic in a first impression. Taking away that part of someone can completely alter their personality. As for your next three arguments: 1) I do not think that clothes are that big of a distraction to begin with. Not once in my career as a student have I witnessed a full-fledged conversation about someone's clothing while class was going on. 2) Peer pressure is yet another thing that is unavoidable. If someone doesn't like a certain type of clothing then they do not have to buy it. Due, I don't think that there is a huge consequence even if they do buy a type of clothing that they normally would not wear. 3) I do not understand how school uniforms could in any way speed up the getting-ready-for-school process. In fact, depending on the uniform, I think that it may even take longer. I think that putting on a simple pair of jeans and a t-shirt is a bit easier than putting on a pair of dress pants, a dress shirt and a tie. Arguments: - Uniforms could potentially become hazardous. In the summer time, schools are hot. If a student has one pair of clothes, and they are super hot, people could pass out, whereas if you could choose your clothes, you can dress in accordance with the weather, therefor preventing the risk of passing out an being distracted during school hours.

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    I am arguing that school uniforms do not do much good and...

    School Uniforms Are Good

    I am arguing that school uniforms do not do much good and that students should not be forced to wear them. First round is only for acceptance. Debate will begin in round two. There are only two rounds because the first round is for acceptance. Please vote for which arguement you think is stronger, not based on your personal opinion. Thank you.

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