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  • PRO

    Victories such as gaining the vote, the right to an...

    Feminism has no more battles left to fight. Victories such as gaining the vote, the right to an abo...

    Feminism has no more battles left to fight. Victories such as gaining the vote, the right to an abortion and the right to equal pay were important and worth winning. But given that sexual equality is now - rightly - enshrined and protected in law, there is nothing left for the feminist movement to do in most western countries, although of course it may still be useful in parts of the world where women still lack basic democratic and other rights.

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  • PRO

    As I said earlier, you CAN sue your employer If he pays...

    The west doesn't need feminism, it needs to move

    They do mean on average since men generally work longer while women generally look after the kids and men get the bigger jobs. My opponent says that men could vote before women even though this is the present, today they're fine although they were mistreated decades or even centuries ago. Ever heard of the Equal Pay Act of 1963? It's illegal to pay less without a valid reason. As I said earlier, you CAN sue your employer If he pays less because of discrimination. This woman describes why we don't need feminism, I'll mention some of her words, the rest is in "America has the most free and liberated women in the world. We have more opportunities than ever before thanks to the original feminist movement. Today"s feminists claim to be strong and independent women but instead they play the victim in order to push their agenda." "One of the major arguments of the current feminist movement is that women make 78 cents to every dollar a man earns. Experts have proven this to be misleading and simply untrue. This claim does not take into account occupation, experience, hours worked, education, and many other variables that factor into wage." "According to the feminist theory class that every school seems to offer nowadays, this is because women are pressured by sexist stereotypes. They will tell you that women"s choices truly aren"t free. This is also false." "When a woman claims that she wants a family more than a career, she is laughed at and shunned by these so-called "women warriors." - Shannon Golden Sources: {1} http://futurefemaleleader.com... {2} https://m.youtube.com... {3} https://m.youtube.com...

  • PRO

    Resolution: "Second-wave [1] and third-wave [2] feminism...

    Second-wave and third-wave feminism have, all in all, detrimentally affected the USA.

    Resolution: "Second-wave [1] and third-wave [2] feminism have, all in all [3], detrimentally [4] affected the United States of America [5]" The first round is for acceptance. (Right now, this debate is impossible to accept. If you are interested in debating this topic, post in the comment section.) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org... [2] http://en.wikipedia.org... [3] "Everything being taken into account" http://www.thefreedictionary.com... [4] "obviously harmful; damaging" http://www.merriam-webster.com... [5] http://en.wikipedia.org...

  • PRO

    I have already produced years of scientific research to...

    Third-wave feminism is about misandry and has nothing to do with gender equality

    I will reinstate the point that you have willfully ignored throughout the entire debate. THIRD-WAVE feminism is different from the viewpoints of traditional feminism and the movement has completely strayed from it's fundamentals about achieving fairness in society. Feminism is a movement and simply many of it's adherents support affirmative-action like policies. You can't just sweep them all under the rug and claim that these are not feminists. After pregnancy, the father will continue to work to supply the household with income which we can both agree is a responsible choice. Where we differ is what happens after, you talk about how women don't work as some kind of major sexist problem. But frankly, I don't see any problem that THIRD-WAVE feminism can fix. The men are not forcing women with threats of violence to stop them from returning to the workplace. And frankly how dare you DEMAND that both gender MUST provide incomes in order to not be "sexist". What gives you the moral obligation to tell the universe and the economy on how it should be run? (US has no maternity leave so, that is definitely not taken in consideration of the "vacation" statistic.) I am in a total state of disbelief after reading your statement: "...They made sure everyone had was a job, healthcare and education". Assuming you ignore the Purges(1.2 million), Soviet caused famine in Volga(5 million), Great Leap Forward (600 million) and their struggling economies that only survived due to Communist armies that quelled any thought of rebellion through military force, you might consider communism a success story. There is only one reason why Soviet women were in STEM and that was because they were forced to by the Soviet government at gunpoint. No feminism caused this involvement in the USSR as feminists were shot and killed by the USSR. As for your point against women and men simply having different interests and psychology, pointing fingers and screaming "SEXIST" does not debunk my point at all. I have already produced years of scientific research to back up a well-known fact about the differences in male and female interests. All you did was scream SEXISM and completely ignored scientific data so you could continue your delusion about how there is institutional sexism and that it secretly detracts women that have an equal skill and interest in STEM. You proclaim this delusion throughout your whole debate without even procuring a single statistic that even remotely backs up your claims. Screaming sexism at my data then going on to ignore my argument and continue to rephrase your argument for the 27th time is not a counterpoint. Your "point" about how women are detracted from STEM is because of how society tells women that they are inferior at mathematics is ridiculous. Not once in my life, has anyone even remotely hinted to me that I am terrible at acting however despite this lack of a negative force, I don't want to pursue an acting career. I don't want to pursue an acting career, not because society tells me that I don't have the ability the reason but, is that I simply have no interest. Just because women apply to STEM jobs at a slightly lower rate does not mean there is institutional sexism of any kind. Men do not have 50% of jobs in the field of nursing, that does not translate into sexism. Your idea of a gender-equal society is horrifying: "Make sure that in the future, applicants for jobs are 50/50 men and women.". I have proven on the preponderance on the evidence of which you have done little to nothing to refute, that women and men simply have different interests due to their brains. What you are demanding for is that society should force little girls to pick STEM jobs regardless of interests to fulfill your ignorant quota. You claim that you are against affirmative actions, but you turn right around and advocate for these similar policies. With your points about "personal experience" about women getting less masters and PhDs, frankly you are wrong. Years of statistics and studies show otherwise and your experiences are not reliable in the slightest. As for your point about how if there are equal opportunity for both genders then that would result in equal outcome is a laughable argument. Outcome is about decisions in life and while opportunity plays a role in where you start, it does not define where you end. In a previous round, I have presented a statistics that shows that income mobility in very high despite where you start. Using your logic: Monopoly, Chess, Checkers, Olympic games, etc. would all end in tie games. The result does not boil down to a specific gender/player rigging the system but, an individual's choices which leads to victory or defeat. Men make up majority of CEOs because, men are more likely to take risks in life. That is why majority of women are in the middle, and a majority of men are at the bottom. More risks can lead to greater gains and greater losses. That is why there is a majority of CEOS being male despite a majority of the male population at the bottom. At the end, it's the women's decisions that lead to the "wage gap", they avoid risks, take more vacations, avoid STEM and simply work less hours. With your supposed "refutation" about how the world does not completely follow probabilities, you just go right on and ignore it by claiming it was false without any evidence or arguments. Once again my opponent merely repeats the same strategy as last time. Just because you say my point is false, doesn't mean that it's false, I DEMAND that you provide evidence in your counter points as I do. And judging by some of the arguments you have made you clearly do not understand how to debate intelligently using evidence and reason. Your whole argument has degraded to the point where your "refutations" aren't even counterpoints but mere assaults on my character through unsupported allegations of misogyny and sexism. Name calling and ignoring opponent arguments don't win debates.

  • PRO

    There is, however, some good news. ... They're also more...

    Feminism

    This argument is ridiculous here are 14 reasons why..... 1. Women pay more for common household items than men do. Shampoo, deodorant"even a 10-pack of socks"are among the many products that cost more for women, according to an analysis we published earlier this year. 2. Women make 16% less money than their male counterparts. Although the pay gap is narrowing, women in the U.S. working full- and part-time make 84% of what their male counterparts earn, according to the Pew Research Center. In other words, women need to work an extra 40 days a year to make as much as men. It's an even grimmer picture overseas: Women worldwide make 77% the amount paid to men, according to a report from the United Nation's International Labor Organization. 3. And for black and Hispanic women, the rates are even worse. Black women have to work 19 months to make what white men did in a year, according to the National Women's Law Center. That number is even worse for Hispanic women, the center found. 4. Women are underrepresented in government. Although women make up nearly 51% of the U.S. population, only 20% of the U.S. Congress is comprised of women, which"fortunately or unfortunately"makes the current Congress one of the most diverse in American history, according to The Washington Post. Worldwide, just 22% of all national parliamentarians were female as of January 2015, according to the U.N. 5. Women are the minority in the executive suite. At Fortune 500 companies, they account for 17% of boards members, 15% of C-suite executives and 5% of CEOs, according to Business Insider. There is, however, some good news. A USA Today analysis this year found that 21 of the 22 current female chief executives in the Standard & Poor's 500 index"which includes Yahoo, defense contractor Lockheed Martin and TJX, the company that owns retailers like T.J. Maxx and Marshalls"earned an average of $18.8 million compared with male CEOs' average salary of $12.7 million. Never mind that there are 455 male CEOs in the S&P 500. 6. Women are also the minority in the news media. Women are on camera 32% percent of the time, according to the Women's Media Center's annual report The Status of Women in the U.S. Media 2015. They report 37% of the stories in print, and on the internet, they write 42% of the news. 7. And they're the minority in the booming tech sector, too. Women on average comprise about 30% of the workforce at the world's largest tech companies, including Google, Microsoft, Twitter and Facebook, according to their own diversity reports. 8. Women still shoulder more of the household burden. According to the U.S. government's National Time Use Survey, working moms are more likely to be saddled with childcare duties than working fathers, even if both spouses work equal hours outside the house. They're also more likely to get the burden of doing chores around the house, even if they're not stay-at-home moms. 9. Women are far more likely to be the victims of human trafficking. More than 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders every year, according to a report in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology. And a whopping 80% of them are women and girls, mostly taken from their homes to be forced into prostitution abroad. 10. Female soldiers face rape and harassment. Between one fifth and one half of female veterans were sexually harassed while on active duty, and women are more likely to leave with PTSD from rape than from actual fighting, according to a 2013 Pentagon report. 11. Women overall are at a greater risk of rape and domestic violence. In fact, women between the ages of 15 and 44 are at a greater risk of experiencing rape or domestic violence than cancer, car accidents, war or malaria, according to the World Bank. And as much as 70% of women worldwide experience violence during their life, the U.N. said. 12. Young women experience inequality in high school sports. Despite the passage in 1972 of Title IX, which called for gender equality in schools, nearly 4,500 public high schools in the U.S."about 28% of the nation's public schools"have "larger gender inequality in sports," reported The Atlantic, which cited data from the National Women's Law Center. 13. Retired women are twice as likely as retired men to live in poverty. Eleven percent of women age 65 and older live below the poverty line compared with 6.6% of men, according to CNNMoney. And women of retirement age rely on a median income of about $16,000 a year, which is around $11,000 than men of the same age. 14. Women of all ages are, in fact, more likely than men to live below the poverty line. Across the U.S., 15.5% of women live in poverty compared with 11.9% of men, according to a report from the Institute for Women's Policy Research. That number worsens for black, Hispanic and Native American women. Worldwide, the majority of the more than 1 billion people living in poverty are women, according to the U.N.

  • PRO

    Men who enjoy pornography are just men in most feminist...

    modern day feminism does more good than harm

    I can admit that misandry is not held accountable 1/3 of the time, and in the feminist community we do recognize misandry and how much of it is in the "feminist" family even thought we do our best to seperate them from us because they are RADICAL feminist. Men who enjoy pornography are just men in most feminist eyes, because women to enjoy pornography. All of your arguement is radical feminist, not feminist like Rowan Blanchard, Malala, etc and it sadens me that you only see that side of feminism not the kind that empowers everyone. Here's some quotes that are great from great feminist idols. "When the whole word is silent, even one voice becomes powerful","I believe in equality, and I believe there is no difference between a man and a woman."-Malala Yousafzai a powerful feminist who helps put middle-eastern girls into schools.eminism itself is incredible but now when it's in a misandrist hands who only holds radical views. I'd like to add that 99.9% of feminist are for Bernie Sanders and if we hated men so much we would be voting for Hillary because she's a woman.

  • PRO

    I like your argument but it looks like you are trying to...

    Feminism is currently helping us reach gender equality in 1st world countries

    Thank you for your argument. I like your argument but it looks like you are trying to prove me wrong buy differing into a different argument saying that "Now this I am going to disagree with. If you click on the link what the statistic shows is that the ratio of men to women in college is quickly become a ratio with much more women than men. That's right. Women are actually getting more college level education than men." You go onto say they don't take the opportunities they are given but they aren't given any more opportunities then men this has no backing and there is no backing they have been given equal opportunities either. The part that you failed is agreeing with me the argument is "Feminism is currently helping us reach gender equality in 1st world countries" and here you say you agree with equality for all humans "Women should have equal rights and opportunities" I completely agree I am egalitarian and believe in equality for all humans. so there you agree with my pro argument Thank you

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  • CON

    I do not think it is wrong for men to have feminine...

    Feminism is wrong

    Thank you for your reply. But i was quite confused when you said you think it is said when society thinks it is great when a man decides to be a stay at home parent and the woman go to work. what is wrong with that? i don't think it's sad. I do not think it is wrong for men to have feminine traits, it's only wrong when they forgo their masculinity to act COMPLETELY feminine and i also do not think it is wrong for a woman to have masculine traits but it is only wrong when she rejects her femininity to become COMPLETELY masculine. Maybe in a married couple, the father is more nurturing than the mother which would make him more equipped to be the stay at home parent. And if you are one to those traditionalists for marriage where the man provides for his family, the thing is is that even if he stay at home, he IS providing for his family- just not the traditional way with finances. he provides protection and care for his children and dinner for his wife when she comes home from work. that is provision- just differently. However i do agree that women do tend to be better at this job die to the fact that the nurturing character is predominant in females and the need to protect is predominant in males (well females do have a maternal instict to protect their young too so i guess you could argue that women do have a natural instinct to protect as well) and i do agree with you that we need not a patriarchy nor a matriarchy- we need egalitarianism. it is the only way that society can function at its best.

  • CON

    Republican voters tend to have a higher work ethic than...

    Modern Feminism

    Actually, the "wage gap" has to do with comparing lower-rate jobs to higher-rate jobs, and women in higher rate jobs are newer, thus receiving less pay. NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE WOMEN! But I guess a sexist-feminist like yourself wouldn't understand. And by the way, look up the stats. There are, in fact, a higher percentage of welfare recipients that have NO JOB APPLICATION OUT that consistently vote democrat. Democrats are the moochers and bad people that simply can't do anything without a hard working tax payer holding their hand. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT! Political views are all about personality. Republican voters tend to have a higher work ethic than democrat voters. This is pure analysis of the voting public. Like it or not, democrats tend to be the lazier party that doesn't do any work on their own. Detroit, bankrupt, democrat controlled. Chicago, not very stable economic situation, highest murder rate in the country, democrat controlled. WASHINGTON D.C., UNTIL NOW THEY'VE BEEN ON THE DRASTIC DECLINE IN ECONOMICS! THE ONLY REASON WE ARE STARTING TO HAVE DEBT REDUCING BUDGETS IS BECAUSE THERE IS A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE NOW! And Hillary herself her family was, "dead broke," when they left the White House. So yes, democrats tend to mooch off of other hardworking people. Now, in conclusion, I have shown you why my ideals point me this direction, all you have done is suck on the lie that "women aren't equal." I have very well shown that there is a distinct difference between TRUE and MODERN feminists. TRUE feminists, being hardworking, ethical women supporting equality (REPUBLICANS). MODERN feminists, being lazy, mooching, evil, pro-female superiority (DEMOCRATS). Thank you, and God bless America.

  • CON

    a3-6.For your first card I will pull out another quote...

    2nd wave and 3rd wave/modern feminism is harmful and should not exist.

    a1. Again not evidence but opinion and thus this point is un-weighted, and yes the way you presented this point does fall back on you because you hold the burden of proof and so far have not fulfilled it. a2. Actually Roosevelt was a key 2nd Wave feminist, but you provided no evidence to show the opposite anyways thus the point is mine by omission of the evidence. a3. I will address your relevant evidence, most doesn't apply to your argument so it can be thrown out, and no men are not raped more often then women, lets look at india, or china where women are scarce so human trafficking is a problem. a3-1. This has nothing to do with rape or the VAWA a3-2. this is male on male and its an issue in women's prisons too, any and all prison rapes are subject to security and aren't tied to feminism. a3-2-2? This is a minute stat taken out of context from the study, in the study he selected the only district in Canada with this stat, in another part of Canada females have an 13.5% chance to be forcibly raped as compared to 6% of men. Faulty stat faulty logic. a3-4. Lets just quote your study that you didn't read, " Among older street-involved youth (ages 19-25), a higher percentage of females reported sexual " a3-5. Realize in prisons men and women are separate, your stat just shows there is more violence in women's prisons. a3-6.For your first card I will pull out another quote stated inside it "Men were more likely than women to strangle, choke, or beat up their partners." and to the rest, this doesn't tie to feminism at all, your still showing substantial damage to women and most of your men being raped cards is them being raped by other men. You have yet to fulfill your burden of proof showing women aren't the ones being hurt. a4. no they don't directly correlate to your arguments you cant paste a bunch of articles at the top and hope we all go "I know where all of these refer to." The point of evidence is so in argumentation I can asses where the evidence is coming from. and maybe you should bother to click your own links, seeing as they them selves don't work, here is one you may like: http://www.glennsacks.com... Wait that one, your first one, doesn't work. thus your arguments are invalid. A5. I'm sorry but I think your arguing against Female Supremacists, not modern feminists, and yes there is a difference. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1)My opponent cant even count, look at his arguments in A3. He himself has typos and unformed sentences, most of his arguments are formed partially and uncompleted. He himself should have deductions in correct/good grammar points. And so my opponent realizes, grammar and spelling are different things. 2) I don't hold the BOP, it is not my job as neg to provide arguments for aff to refute, he has also just attacked how I debate, his lack of evidence however should lose him conduct points. 3)Apparently my opponent never looked at the pay gap study, if he did he would see they didn't look at all men and women, then compare the ceo men to unemployed women. They compared men in the same job as women, Secondly the pay gap exists because of people like my opponent, a women can work any job a man can. your statistics are showing the difference in men and women overall, and this isn't what the pay wage study did. Lets look at the census where they did the math; the Census Bureau released new numbers showing that the gender wage gap is at 77%, meaning women make just 77 cents for each dollar a man makes.The median earnings for men working full-time were $49,400 while women’s were just $37,800. http://www.census.gov... http://thinkprogress.org... 3) no evidence once again 4) no evidence once again Conclusion: My opponent has not fulfilled the BOP he must provide in order to win todays debate. He lacks evidence overall and the only things he does dont say what hes trying to paint them to say. Thus we can only see a ballot in negation of the resolution.

  • CON

    I accept Pro's concession. Please award him the conduct...

    Feminism is idiotic.

    I accept Pro's concession. Please award him the conduct point for graciously recognizing and apologizing for his mistake. Good luck to Pro, if he ever chooses to redo this debate with a more specific resolution!

  • CON

    they want special rights and that's fair because they...

    Feminism is relevant

    first of all the disabillity rights community doesn't want equallity. they want special rights and that's fair because they were born with a disadvantage that, unlike people of color and women, cant overcome on their own i would say that the anti-racist and the gay rights movements were not about equality too but that would spawn onther debate on slut-shaming: males(in human race) are biologically programmed to compete with each other to get as most females as possible and to aknowledge as their leader the one who does it better. females on the other hand are programmed to mate with the best male possible and thats why sluts are looked down to. the funny thing is that the ones who actually dislike sluts more are other females on hyperattractivization: again its mostly womens fault. in their attempt to reverse the roles and they compete with each other Nature is sexist but on women's side. men are more intelligent, stronger and better hunters but they are also very expendable compared to women meaning that only the best of men "survive" based on this i can say that while men and women arent equal in terms of"being the same" but on terms of"having equal amount of advantages and disadvantages over each other"

  • CON

    Let's see, what does veterinary sciences include? ... Ran...

    Third-wave feminism is about misandry and has nothing to do with gender equality

    Feminism and gender equality are one and the same, which makes the poll my opponent brings up in the first paragraph just as pointless as the dihydrogen monoxide poll hoaxes that have been pulled throughout the years. My opponent then moves on to the misogynist classic, that the wage gap is a myth. There are many variations of this "fact", and my opponent brings up the three most popular ones. Women generally work less than men/take more vacations than men: Women sometimes get this condition called pregnancy, it furthers the human race and stuff. It often requires them to take some vacation time because it makes working very hard. And since men chronically refuse being stay at home dads, who do you think gets stuck with rearing the child at home? A woman can't get pregnant on her own so I must assume that unless rape was involved, a man shares the responsibility for the pregnancy. Calling this a valid cause to the wage gap is pure bs and is about as wrong as the wage gap itself. Just as a side not, your own links proves this, the second US news one. It basically confirms my point that women aren't working because they are being relegated to housewifehood. How can you morally find that a justifiable reason for the wage gap? It is sexist through and through. Women generally work lower paying jobs: So, my opponent attacks this one from both sides, he claims women don't get into STEM jobs but also that they are favoured for them. My opponent begins with talking of women not picking the correct educations for STEM jobs and of women graduating from universities/colleges at much higher rates than men but not getting into STEM jobs. He then answers his own question when it comes to why women pick the wrong educations for STEM jobs. Gender roles and stereo types. He dismisses this notion quite readily by ridiculing it and blaming it all on "the evil patriarchy", which no feminist has ever claimed. Both men and women propagate stereo types. And then he asks the very ridiculous question "why the evil patriarchy would discourage women from physics BUT not veterinary sciences." Let's see, what does veterinary sciences include? Caring for fluffy little animals, nursing them to life and stuff. Hmmm, what stereo type about women involves caring and nursing for small helpless creatures? He also claims that women graduate at higher rates than men, even though he has already claimed that women pick the wrong educations, which pretty much voids this argument. And he backs this up with quite the hilarious link about women getting more bachelor degrees than men. Mate, I would like you to try and get a STEM job with a bachelor, honestly. STEM jobs are master or higher, just posting a link doesn't make it relevant. As to women getting an advantage when applying for STEM jobs, I agree. What my opponent chooses to ignore, even though he has himself already brought it up, is that the applicants are usually majority male. Women are different from men and can bring a different viewpoint on many matters, which is why companies do everything they can to get their hands on one. It is not that women are favoured, they are a rare commodity in the STEM labour market. All in all, my opponent doesn't seem to understand that culture affects choice, women choose the arts and humanities, veterinary sciences and biology overall because our culture says it fits them the best. They are the more feminine subjects, unlike the very manly physics and chemistry and maths. Why would companies not hire solely women if they get paid less? SEXISM! Do I need to say more? Look up any list of worlds 100 richest people and tell me business isn't sexist. Your quaint story about 1800s women getting jobs in sweatshops is great and all, but what women are looking for are board positions and CEO jobs, not sweatshops. They already have those. Now even if we account for these reasons, women still get a lower hourly wage than men at the same jobs. The gap is often inflated for reasons such as the ones above, but it does nevertheless exist. If my opponent doubts this, I googled the very unbiased phrase "women wages" and have linked the top 5 results. I did not omit any results that didn't fit me, these are literally the first 5 results. About the tearing down of men, feminism = gender equality, and since gender includes both men and women it aids both. In Sweden (I'm a Swede) feminists are for example working towards getting men the same amount of paid parental leave as women. I have a hard time seeing the "tearing down of men" there. Honestly, this far my opponent has only brought up wages and education (and one mention of rape culture, whatever that is), and I don't see how the solutions to any of these problems include tearing down men. All you have to do is raise the salaries of women with like 5-10% and encourage women to get into master of science educations. No tearing down needed. And lastly, I would like to highlight how my opponent does what many people do against many other groups of people. He highlights a bad few, say they represent the entire group and then decides to besmirch the entire group when it in fact only is a very small minority doing the bad stuff. There is a difference between a feminist and "feminist" Feminism is about gender equality and if you aren't for it then you are not a feminist, hence the quotation marks. Just like Stalin wasn't a communist, Bin-Laden wasn't a Muslim and that crazy homophobic church in America isn't Christian. Just because you claim that you are something doesn't make you that thing. The feminist movement has a defined set of goals, "feminists" do not follow these goals, therefore they are not feminists. The movement defines the followers, not the other way around. Ran out of characters so I posted the links in the comments.

  • CON

    Finally, go out and approach fifty women this week and...

    The feminism of Men

    I disagree. I think you're bluffing. Today's men are cowards. If you don't want to be a coward then I challenge you. Today, go out and pick a fight with a bully who richly deserves it. That's right, pick the fight. If you get beat up, then you are a brave man,. especially if you get up and pick a fight with another bully next week. Finally, go out and approach fifty women this week and ask for their phone number. If you do these things then you're a man, otherwise you're just hiding out. Many men say the same things you say, but when danger lurks they usually slink back down to their apartments. Surprisingly, men are much more likely to fight another guy than they are to talk to a woman and get her phone number. If you can't fight the bullies in your life today, what makes you think you can stand up to ISIS, or Black Mamba, or KKK, or Communists?