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Feminism is a poisonous belief system that needs to be done away with.

Hi, I certainly have my hands full in this last post.I apologise if I sound condescending at times, but many of the claims that you make were simply too much for me to bear. 1.Definition troubles Firstly,about the definition of Feminism, I have been giving the definition of Feminism from the 1st round itself. It is truly unfortunate that you ignored the difference that we have in the definition and are coming up with a totally new definition in the last round of the debate.You should have defined it in the 2nd round or the opening round as you are the instigator.I recommend the readers to see the definition themselves in the site and see who is misreporting. I stand by my initial claim that feminism is the the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. This is something I have been saying from the first round itself.Just because a few "radical" feminists may define it otherwise, it does not change the meaning of a word that is atleast 200 years old. If it is an attempt at equal rights, then your claim that we must have an "Egalitarian" movement falls flat on its face, because feminism is an attempt at "egalitarianism".Thus, you cannot say that equality is needed while feminism is not, because I have given ample proof that the two are defined as one and the same! 2.The Nature Of the World You seem to have a very limited and narrow world view and seem to be completely oblivious of the condition of women outside the US and Western Europe.I have conceded that in these regions the feminist movement has gone too far from the 1st round itself, but that is irrelevant as we are talking about the world at large. I have given a number of UN and WHO studies and have even given quotes from the Qura'an itself to show how patriarchy and the subjugation of women is rampant in the Islamic world and in Asia.There are over 1 Billion muslims alone, not to mention another 1 billion Hindus in India(my country) that has a much larger land area than Europe(excluding Russia) combined.How these regions that consitute over 1/3rd of the worlds population, can be convineintly ignored by you is really astounding.On what basis you claim to have a better understanding of the condition of women than UN and WHO officials working in these areas for many years really baffles me. Yet you totally ignore all this and go on to make rash statements like "I would go so far as to say Feminism has succeeded in a vast majority of the world." Sorry, your opinion could not be more wrong, as anyone who reads the various reports I have cited will realise. Bottomline:Has feminism succeeded in the West?Yes! But it is far from succeeding in the East and is the only movement that cares for women in the Islamic world.This debate is about the world at large, not just the west. 3.Nature Of equality I am sorry if you were not able to understand my arguments, because I thought the meaning was self evident. Some Feminist movements may seem like they are getting special priviledges for women, but in reality they are compensating for the special nature of women's bodies.The argument sought to explain why women are given prefence for custody in cases of divorce,given alimony, as well as special employment benefits like Maternity Leave.I was saying that this is not a special concession but an attempt at equality. Women better get those choices you mentioned as they are literally risking their lives.If a guy does not want to look after his child he should have used protection, or better still, abstained from sex itself!He can't simply use a woman's body like a toy and then leave whenever he wants.If he can't pay child support, HE DESERVES to go to prison as he is forcing the woman to commit murder otherwise or to live with a lifelong responsibility that is partly his! The ability to give birth is not a handicap, the risk to one's own life due to complications during pregnancy IS!I don't see how this is Misogynistic, it is a fact of nature. 4.India I am sorry for not giving adequate sources in the previous round.Those are government released statistics, and unfortunately in India we have a really corrupt government.All documents should be read for the actual numbers, and most claims should be taken with a pinch of Salt.I forgot to mention how to read these documents I reccommend that the voters read the links that were given below, as well as these links that I have provided here before forming your opinions. 5.The Remaining Issues a.Circumcision. I concede that it is a painful practice for both men and women.However the reason why it is more widely prevalent for men was also explained in the previous round.For men, It is actually beneficial! It is a recommended practice even by modern doctors in extreme cases of infection and Phimosis. But women who have their genitals mutilated can NEVER experience sexual pleasure their entire lives! Not to mention the fact that they are going to suffer from various complications at childbirth and are going to be much more vulnerable for to a host of other problems and infections. This makes it much more serious that over 80% of the women in many countries live with this horrific practice. b.Domestic Violence and Sharia'ah Everything you wrote as a rebuttal is just your own opinion with no reliable source.What I am giving is the result of many well documented WHO and UN sponsored studies .I recommend the voters to take this into consideration, and to read my argument carefully and once again. Also,even if the 'little guy' was wrong, there is something called 'Civility' and 'Restraint'.The world is much bigger than 'Here in the South'! I have shown how even in those countries where even Pro agrees that feminism has succeeded, more women are literally Clobbered to DEATH by their intimate partners.It is amazing how you actually seek to jusify this. c.Sweden The reason I brought up Sweden is to rebut your claim that women are somehow not motivated to come to Politics.Since you have not given any rebuttals for that, completely Ignored the other example Rwanda, I am assuming you don't have anything to add in that discussion. The private hatred you seem to have for Sweden is irrelavant and none of my concern.Even if Sweden is all the things you claim it to be, it does not alter the fact that women have the desire to take part in politics and will succeed if given a chance. The remaining issues like Bride Burning etc. you don't really seem to be making any points so I won't bother refuting them. Conclusion Pro seems confused about what he really wants.Feminism as was defined from the 1st round of the debate was an attempt at equality between the genders.I too want Equality, and I say feminism is one such way to achieve equality. He keeps claiming that "equality" is needed completely oblivious to the fact that feminism all over the world, ever since the word itself was coined was an attempt at exactly what both of us seem to want. Feminism is the only source of hope for millions around the world.I humbly request voters to look beyond their immediate surroundings,and the actions of a few radicals, but at the world at large when voting. Your Sincerely, CynicalDiogenes Sources: These are Non-Governmental Organizations that give a better picture of reality: http://www.cwcs.in... http://vawhelp.org...; http://www.wcdsngo.org...