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On balance modern Feminism is beneficial to the modern United States.

That was a very well written rebuttal. I could not help but laugh when I read “My arguments have been dismissed by feminists because I am a man, and do not know what it's like to be a woman.” I assure you I will not follow suite, as I am also a man who does not know what it is like to be a women… ha ha! I get just as amusing responses when I, as a man, publically identify as a feminist. Alright, lets get to rebuttals. Economic Injustice: Con says “I also, for the life of me, could not find any statistics showing pay between men and women based on same job, same work experience, same age, and same education. I did however find a census. pdf that showed there is a 23% difference between men and women for the most part, but this has nothing to do with specific jobs” First, I would also like to note that con confirms my stat of a 23% difference when you compare all full time men and women. That is the same as 77 cents on the dollar. It took me a great deal of time to find the stats that I shared last round. However, I specifically included examples of men and women who had the same job title specifically to address this issue. While the data is not comprehensive enough to take into account work experience, age, and education, it does take into account job title and gender. In every case it shows quite the disparity. Even with all the other variables absent, looking at job title and gender gives a good indication that gender has something to do with it. Con asks “why is it when as soon as a man gets paid more than a woman, everyone blames sexism and says there's no possible way a male can be paid more than a female other than blatant sexism?” This is a great question, but the answer is simple. As gender being a large commonality and because the disparity is so large, as well as generally true, it seems to imply gender as, at most the reason for, and at least, part of why the gap exists. Of course there are going to be cases where an individual man is better qualified and therefore worth paying more for a job than a women. However, stats show this pay gap to be the case across the board. Indicating again that gender at least is an indicator if not the cause entirely. Con says “Would it be possible women just generally don't excel as much as men do in jobs such as engineering or mathematics or technology, and excel more in jobs geared toward "natural female" jobs, such as child care, or jobs that require a personable personality?” A study that compared men and women’s cognitive capability concluded that in math “the researchers found no large overall differences between boys and girls in math performance. “ (1) this study goes on to show that if anything “165 studies revealed a female advantage so slight as to be meaningless,” as far as verbal skills. Con says “Men handle lack of sleep better than women do.” Not that my experience is an all encompassing one, however I have been hired at 8 different companies, not once was I ever asked how well I handle a lack of sleep. I do not buy the thought that men dealing with a lack of sleep better really impacts their value in the work force, though if my opponent wishes to elaborate this point, so be it. Con says “On average, women don't have as well paying jobs or as well "respected" jobs as men? I can agree with that. However you would need to prove that this is directly related to blatant sexism, discrimination, etc against women.” Again I would just point out that the stats and information I provided did specifically compare those who had the same job title and gender. Unless con has a definitive reason to discount the sources I used, the pay gap by gender is pretty well supported. Con says “Did you forget upwards of 70% of the homeless population is male.” I confess I was unaware of that stat, and at first glance seems to undermine my argument about women and poverty. However, the number of the homeless is not comparable to the number of people who live in poverty. 600,000 homeless(2), vs 45.3 million in poverty.(3) When you apply the percentages we are comparing 420,000 men to 31.7 million women. It is like comparing suicide deaths to heart disease. Which has the bigger impact on society? The numbers hardly compare. Clearly the pay gap is empirically evident and as such is indisputable. Just as evident is that poverty affects women significantly more so than men. It can then be concluded that men and women do not have an equal rights or opportunity in the U.S. economy. Domestic violence: In watching cons first video, it becomes apparent that while people did not take women abusing men very seriously, this is largely because people did not view female aggression, as the lady concluded “ as not very important, not very deadly, nothing really to react to.” Rather than supporting my opponent’s argument, this really supports the idea that women are not taken as seriously as men. It serves as empirical evidence to all who watch that women are not taken as seriously or treaty equally. Con says “Statistics are great, however you have not provided a correlation between domestic abuse and sexism.” Like the pay gap, the huge disparity between the numbers when you compare men and women is what makes it evident that it is a gender issue. How Feminism can help: Con says “I completely agree 100% that feminism was needed at a time, and did help drastically with women's rights and safety, and it was completely necessary in the 20th century." Con says “it doesn't matter if "true" feminists don't consider these women "true" feminists, what matters is "true" feminists still associate with these "fake" feminists, or "feminazis," by sharing the same name” It does make a difference, though I would not argue that they are not true feminist, I can easily argue that the extreme view you have encountered in not the general view. Much like the KKK is Christian, but nobody looks at the KKK to get a good idea of Christianity. Muslim terrorists may be followers of Islam, but clearly the fast majority of Musliums have taken issue with how the “extremist” has portrayed the religion. in reference to your comment “you support rape if you like the song 'blurred lines." I would not assume that every “feminist” you meet is well educated, intelligent, etc… again it is like when a Christian parent won’t let their kids read Harry Potter because of witch craft. I would say there are crazies in every group. (I am so sorry if offended someone with that.) It does not however define the whole group. All in all feminism is about equal treatment of the sexes. That is what is has been traditionally, that is what it is today, and likely what it will continue to be. Fringe groups do exist, and they do cause damage. This damage though is a blip in the big picture as feminism is on balance, beneficial to the modern United States. Conclusion: The economic disparity stands, as the numbers don’t lie. The comparison between the homeless and poverty falls as it is overwhelmed by sheer numbers. This is also true of domestic abuse. Cons video shows that society does not treat women equally. Fringe groups do not steer the message and stupid statements do not define a group. On balance modern Feminism is beneficial to the modern United States. (As a side note, against my greater judgement, I am posting this very late at night. I hope my argument seems as coherent to me in the morning as it does right now LOL! I’m not as good at staying up late as I used to be.) (1) http://www.apa.org... (2) http://thinkprogress.org... (3)https://www.google.com...