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Feminism Does Not Equate to Equality

Equal rights do not equate to equal treatment, and many ignorant feminists such as you refuse to accept they are different. Yes, women are being oppressed. But not just women. Feminism makes us all see humanity as a divided hierarchy, which is really not what we"re going for here. We strive for equality so as to unite us. Does feminism do that? Definitely not. Oh, please, get your facts straight. Slaves and servants have many differences, even though they both serve their masters. Were servants bought? No, they weren't. They offered themselves as services to their masters as an employment, as a job. They had their rights too. They weren"t even paid for being a slave themselves. All the money went to the person who sold them. People literally owned slaves. Servants did not. But back to the point of gender equality. Yes, gender equality has been a tough nut to crack, but because of our more advanced world, rights are equal to all men and women. What do you mean they are not allowed in leadership roles? In terms of politics? If so, I really am shocked at your ignorance. What are the certain jobs that society would prevent women from having? You"re being vague here. Please elaborate on his women will not be paid fairly if they become a professional sports player or have a job. If you"re talking about the gender pay gap, yes, it does exist. But you have to dig deeper. Don"t just look at the issue at a surface level. There are many reasons why women have supposedly lower incomes (ex. they have to take care of their children, etc.) But statistics and studies prove that unmarried women are paid higher than unmarried men. Now, how is that equality? Another sad fact about most feminists is that they never stop to check the consequences of their actions. What will equal treatment result in? We would be treated the same as men. We would be expected to be more masculine (which is not at all bad, but other feminists would be pushing other "weaker" women to be more masculine and just come off as stronger), which is, let"s face it, our opposite traits, as we are feminine creatures. Yes, it is good that feminists fight for society to change their views of women, but if feminism makes society look at women as man-hating fools, then why bother? Other feminists admit that they do not fight for equality but rather liberty. But if everyone is given liberty, there would also be limitations imposed on the other party. Yes, and so are all the other citizens of this world such as I. Let me reiterate that feminism is far from fighting for equality. They are rather fighting for what women have been denied of all these years. If you have already forgotten the definition of "equality" it is "the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities." (Please, also, work on your grammar as I cannot for the life of me comprehend what you are trying to say in this statement.) Well, no, I don"t live in America. Yes, I am glad that you have understood that equality is for everyone, which is true. But women are the ones that fall out? Only women? I don"t think so. Many feminists (like other extremist thinking people) dive into false ideologies, thinking that it is only women who are oppressed. It"s women who always suffer. Wrong. How about the fact that men are always chosen to do more dangerous jobs, such being a construction worker? How about the fact that only men are able to go to war while women live relatively easier lives at home taking care of their children (both are difficult tasks but, for men, there"s a higher chance of getting shot dead). You actually have a point there. Yes, equality is all about having equal rights, equal opportunities and equal status. Discrimination does inherently lower the status of women. Both have recurring concepts of both injustice and inequality. In the past, yes, men have been congratulated for being players. But in our more developed and evolved world, it is shunned by society (which consists of mostly morally upright people) that both man and woman gets a lot of girls or guys. It"s either that or society just has a neutral outlook towards it. My opponent makes the mistake of mistaking that I said the abuse of women is not at all gender discrimination. I did not say it wasn"t, but it is not the only major factor. It"s also the social hierarchy we live in. I find it rather bogus of feminists who say they fight for equality, when in actuality they do not. Sure, there is gender discrimination, but it seems that only women are being discriminated. How about the other poor, innocent men who have done nothing in their lives but try to be and do good? They are expected to earn enough to support a family and to serve in military service. Domestic violence committed by women against men is an almost invisible crime. Men are forced to pay child support under almost every scenario; even when they're victims of statuary rape. Men aren't supposed to show emotion or cry. Men aren't supposed to enjoy "feminine" things, although it's okay for women to enjoy "masculine" things. It"s obvious that feminists strive not for equal treatment but to also warp society"s image of men. Stop doing that. You seem to be only arguing about the relevance of feminism and deliberately avoiding the topic of how feminism does not strive for either equality or justice (although both are different, they have a close interrelationship). My opponent fails to see that feminism from the start is not about striving for equality or justice, but for what women have been denied of from the past. In all your ignorance, you state that feminism is relevant today because (according to me) I blamed (by the way, I am a female myself if you haven"t noticed my use of the pronoun "we"). Social hierarchy is the opposite of inequality, the opposite of which feminism is not about. I hope you understand what I"m saying. But yes, I am glad that we both have a common viewpoint that discrimination in all forms is a shallow part of man that although is virtually impossible can be eradicated if we put conscious effort into it. Again, I have to reiterate that one example of men being discriminated is that they are expected to not cry or show any emotions as it would not be "manly". Another is that while it is socially acceptable for women of this age to enjoy sports and roughhousing, you call a man gay because of wanting to do more feminine stuff, such as painting your nails. Yes. It is It is feminists themselves who do not want to become women themselves. They are already implying that if a man is more feminine, he is weaker, and by that they are implying that they themselves are weak just because of their feminine traits. Oh, the irony of you feminists. You see, both genders are constrained by stereotypes, not just women. That"s why men are uncomfortable with women fighting for their rights at this age. You feminists are such hypocrites. I've more to say but there isn't enough word space.