Let's see, what does veterinary sciences include? ... Ran...
Third-wave feminism is about misandry and has nothing to do with gender equality
Feminism and gender equality are one and the same, which makes the poll my opponent brings up in the first paragraph just as pointless as the dihydrogen monoxide poll hoaxes that have been pulled throughout the years. My opponent then moves on to the misogynist classic, that the wage gap is a myth. There are many variations of this "fact", and my opponent brings up the three most popular ones. Women generally work less than men/take more vacations than men: Women sometimes get this condition called pregnancy, it furthers the human race and stuff. It often requires them to take some vacation time because it makes working very hard. And since men chronically refuse being stay at home dads, who do you think gets stuck with rearing the child at home? A woman can't get pregnant on her own so I must assume that unless rape was involved, a man shares the responsibility for the pregnancy. Calling this a valid cause to the wage gap is pure bs and is about as wrong as the wage gap itself. Just as a side not, your own links proves this, the second US news one. It basically confirms my point that women aren't working because they are being relegated to housewifehood. How can you morally find that a justifiable reason for the wage gap? It is sexist through and through. Women generally work lower paying jobs: So, my opponent attacks this one from both sides, he claims women don't get into STEM jobs but also that they are favoured for them. My opponent begins with talking of women not picking the correct educations for STEM jobs and of women graduating from universities/colleges at much higher rates than men but not getting into STEM jobs. He then answers his own question when it comes to why women pick the wrong educations for STEM jobs. Gender roles and stereo types. He dismisses this notion quite readily by ridiculing it and blaming it all on "the evil patriarchy", which no feminist has ever claimed. Both men and women propagate stereo types. And then he asks the very ridiculous question "why the evil patriarchy would discourage women from physics BUT not veterinary sciences." Let's see, what does veterinary sciences include? Caring for fluffy little animals, nursing them to life and stuff. Hmmm, what stereo type about women involves caring and nursing for small helpless creatures? He also claims that women graduate at higher rates than men, even though he has already claimed that women pick the wrong educations, which pretty much voids this argument. And he backs this up with quite the hilarious link about women getting more bachelor degrees than men. Mate, I would like you to try and get a STEM job with a bachelor, honestly. STEM jobs are master or higher, just posting a link doesn't make it relevant. As to women getting an advantage when applying for STEM jobs, I agree. What my opponent chooses to ignore, even though he has himself already brought it up, is that the applicants are usually majority male. Women are different from men and can bring a different viewpoint on many matters, which is why companies do everything they can to get their hands on one. It is not that women are favoured, they are a rare commodity in the STEM labour market. All in all, my opponent doesn't seem to understand that culture affects choice, women choose the arts and humanities, veterinary sciences and biology overall because our culture says it fits them the best. They are the more feminine subjects, unlike the very manly physics and chemistry and maths. Why would companies not hire solely women if they get paid less? SEXISM! Do I need to say more? Look up any list of worlds 100 richest people and tell me business isn't sexist. Your quaint story about 1800s women getting jobs in sweatshops is great and all, but what women are looking for are board positions and CEO jobs, not sweatshops. They already have those. Now even if we account for these reasons, women still get a lower hourly wage than men at the same jobs. The gap is often inflated for reasons such as the ones above, but it does nevertheless exist. If my opponent doubts this, I googled the very unbiased phrase "women wages" and have linked the top 5 results. I did not omit any results that didn't fit me, these are literally the first 5 results. About the tearing down of men, feminism = gender equality, and since gender includes both men and women it aids both. In Sweden (I'm a Swede) feminists are for example working towards getting men the same amount of paid parental leave as women. I have a hard time seeing the "tearing down of men" there. Honestly, this far my opponent has only brought up wages and education (and one mention of rape culture, whatever that is), and I don't see how the solutions to any of these problems include tearing down men. All you have to do is raise the salaries of women with like 5-10% and encourage women to get into master of science educations. No tearing down needed. And lastly, I would like to highlight how my opponent does what many people do against many other groups of people. He highlights a bad few, say they represent the entire group and then decides to besmirch the entire group when it in fact only is a very small minority doing the bad stuff. There is a difference between a feminist and "feminist" Feminism is about gender equality and if you aren't for it then you are not a feminist, hence the quotation marks. Just like Stalin wasn't a communist, Bin-Laden wasn't a Muslim and that crazy homophobic church in America isn't Christian. Just because you claim that you are something doesn't make you that thing. The feminist movement has a defined set of goals, "feminists" do not follow these goals, therefore they are not feminists. The movement defines the followers, not the other way around. Ran out of characters so I posted the links in the comments.