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    Feminism

    I realised I have joined a pitched battle. The google search "Arguments supporting feminism" has actually turned up only pages of arguments against feminism. I'm not even joking, You can see for yourself. And I must say, Even though this will look bad in the voting period, ALL MY OPPONENT'S ARGUMENTS ARE VALID Because of this, I will have to make my own arguments. Feminism is a complicated subject. The base idea of equality and possibly superiority has picked up many supporters that are toxic human beings in general. The confusion ensuing from less smart people joining a once-noble movement has muddied the waters greatly. But, Even though a large chunk of feminists are hypocritical, Discriminating, Patriarchy-screaming people, They are not all bad. There are some feminists that directly argue an egalitarian agenda, Even though they don't proclaim themselves as egalitarian. Sure, A lot of women don't want to be bricklayers or plumbers or fast food workers, But do men really want that either? Do you grow up as a kid thinking: I want to work at a sewage plant for half my life! You don't. But if an egalitarian agenda is fought for in the name of equality for women, Then the people who screw up and need to work an undesirable job would become equal. And that is true equality. In some areas, Feminism has overreached in ways of red herrings or kind politeness. (Looking at you Amy Schumer) However, In some ways, It hasn't gotten far enough. While it is possible to sue a sperm donor for child support and win, It is also possible to have a president with 21 sexual misconduct allegations including a teen beauty pageant. While rape jokes are frowned upon by most people, When the roles are reversed they become funny again. The concept of the 'perfect girl' is still a thing focused upon by too many girls in my school, Middle aged mothers, And recently graduated college students. Women's ability to vote was just the beginning. Another recent event that has come in the name of equality is the 'me too' movement. Allegations should always be taken seriously, But if they are false, The victim has to own up to his or her lies, And the bad news around the blamed person should be cleared up. In a perfect world, That's how it would be. But it isn't a perfect world. It's a world with greedy, Misaligned people who falsely accuse or suppress true accusations. People who, Up until very recently had no troubles with that underground gas line. In conclusion of this paragraph, Feminism pushes a good point under this topic. In an egalitarian movement, Everyone has the right to express whoever they want to be. This is not something I see in my school. There are about 50-150 girls in my school that if you put them side by side, You would have trouble telling the differences. I have talked with my ex as well as other girls about this standard, And they always shut down the idea of embracing their ideals as if they were scared of the concept. (As you may be able to tell, I'm not the average teenage boy) The feminist movement pushes strong, If not necessarily equal women. A mixture of feminism (as in girls being strong too) and egalitarianism (Everyone having equal advantages and disadvantages) Would be the best way to go. So, You may not be wrong in some points of your argument, But you are incorrect in your stance against ALL forms of feminism. Some responses: Quote: "Women's suffrage is not 'feminist, ' and it was the result of a shift in culture and subsequent advances a result of the introduction of birth control and other scientific advancements. " Was it right and just that women got to vote or no? Quote: "should be treated equally to men. " What about the double standards? Should girls be treated like they shouldn't cry and need to compete in sports? Should men be forced to cook and tend the babies for women who have higher income than them? Thank you for your recommendation, But I will stick to what I said. Yes, We are different, But we are still equal. We are all intelligent to a degree and had the same ancestors. So, Women should be exactly equal to men. There is a difference between equality and equity. Equality is where everyone gets treated the same no matter what, Equity is where everyone gets exactly what they need to come out equal in the end. Quote: "And that makes them angry" This is both a micro-aggression and stereotyping. Do all feminists or even all contemporaries become angry at the concept of a person not being fooled by a lie? A look at "The New Yorker" reveals that feminism itself recently shattered. With one side becoming "so soft they're becoming useless" and one side becoming "too strict an ideology. " And you can't argue against both. You argue against the contemporary movement, Which is more women>men, But you fail to realize there are two more pieces of the shattered movement. The contemporary movement is the biggest, And the loudest, And the most hateful, So it is the one plastered on all the news sites. But the original movement still stands. Brave women who want to be soldiers, Who want to feel equally safe, Who want to compete, Who want to preform physical labor, Who want to live their life to the fullest in co-existence with everyone. They fight for the concept that women=men. In conclusion, Some feminism is bad, As with every group in existence, But some of it is good too. Therefore, You cannot argue against all forms of feminism. Your floor

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