• CON

    Can you convince me that I should value the well being of...

    There are universal, objective moral values

    Consensus human opinion (which doesn't exist yet) defines our morality. There is no such thing as objective morality; only self-serving and self created "human rights" which only exist as long as we have the power to enforce them. Can you convince me that I should value the well being of others? If I had the power to set every living thing and resource on the planet in such a way that it all serves as a support structure for my own happiness, how can you say that it would be objectively wrong for me to do that? Unless there would be punishment in the afterlife, it's literally impossible for me to care about the rest of the world after I die. Even if there is a supreme creator being, morality is just an alignment with his will, and that is only absolute because he can enforce it with his power. Benevolence, in relation to a god, is still a meaningless and subjective opinion. Assuming he is all powerful, that just means he can enforce his will. Then "morality" is what ever he wants and "amorality" is anything he doesn't want, which can't exist if he is truly all powerful. It doesn't mean anything.