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    This is rape culture," again,, a culture that does not...

    Modern Feminism

    If I'm the problem, then it sounds like truth is the problem. The reason they make .77 cents for every dollar a man makes, is because not as many women are in the work force as men, simply because they are full time mothers, which that in itself is a very tough job, as well as the ones who live off of men who work full time or more, and simply choose to sit around and live an easy life, or even the ones who collect welfare and child support and work the system like a blood sucking leech to make ends meets. You know, the ones that make me scared to get married for fear of losing half of what i own and in the process losing much of the money that i work for. We've never had a woman president because they simply are not good enough as politicians to acquire the position, not the fact that they are a woman, it's the fact that they are not qualified for the job. Same thing for congress and senate, its because they don't meet the requirements necessary to win the job. It has nothing to do with their gender. Nobody hates on women or treats them in such a way that they wouldn't vote for them, it's that less women run, and the ones who do obviously do not cut it. That is not inequality, that is people voting for the superior candidate, the fact that women do get positions in senate and congress means they probably did beat some men because they are more qualified than the men who ran. As for my rebuttal to your second argument: it doesn't exist. Those television advertisements are makeup companies and clothing company's trying to get their product out there for people to buy, it's a little word known as, "advertisement" and it is in no way attempting to objectify women, if that is how you choose to interpret it, than that is you and your self-confidence. Simple over thinking and low self esteem and more than likely, young age, are the biggest culprits at fault here to blame for your interpretation. As for a 12 year old wearing yoga pants, that is an issue with their parents, parents should not let their daughters walk around dressed like that if they are at all concerned about that, also, the only 50 year old men that i have heard about checking out under aged girls are perverts who deserve, if not already are, in prison. I'm sorry for you and your sisters troubles, but again, that has to do with your age and low self esteem, maybe it was your parents or the way you were raised, or even another issue i don't know about, but it most likely was you at fault for that. "It is the fight to be treated with respect," you mean, disregarding the copious amounts of respect they already have, right? Please keep in mind that the definition of rape is, "unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part or foreign object, without the consent of the victim." So simple comments, or whistling or whatever, is not rape, and in a lot of cases, not signaling rape, granted the few exceptions to that when a pervert or mentally ill person or, like you and me both stated, intoxicated individuals is trying for that. Actual rape is committed by a criminal, typically in a bad place at a bad time, every man i know would stop a rape and send the guy committing it (if it was a guy) to hell. Men who whistle or say things like that are typically immature and typically don't know the right way to get to know a woman, the oppression you feel is most definitely not the oppression that you face, it is the oppression that you imagine. As for a casual greeting on the street, it really could be a member of the community saying hello, or someone who is fairly extroverted looking to make conversation to trying to interact with the environment and the people in it. Again, feminism is a fight against imaginary oppression. "This is rape culture," again,, a culture that does not exist. Women do have more emotions than men, that is where biology trumps ideology. The fact that women have menstrual cycles and more hormones. I wouldn't quite call it crazy, it is science, science that is the contradiction of everything you just wrote about the word hysterical, notice how you said that it does not happen anymore (not hysterectomy's, women being called insane and being forced to have one) it doesn't happen anymore, because science has developed and we know that the belief is illogical. Notice how you said it used to happen in the 19th century, before we had something known as, "women's suffrage." Science has developed and we no know that is not true. Video games that rape? you mean the illicit ones that are banned? or the ones that don't exist? If there is a video game that depicts rape or sex or something, it most likely is for the story line and is a part of a characters personality, no one is advising or condoning rape, and no one is thinking about committing it or taking part in a rape. Courts that protect rapists? It takes a real vivid imagination for someone to think a man accused of rape has any chance at making it through the legal system without being in jail or prison, including men who get falsely accused of rap, then you truly have never seen a real life involving a man on trial for rape. What she was wearing, can be relevant, in some situations, rapists are the lowest form of life, in prison they get punished for what they did both legally and physically by other prisoners, what they get in prison is what they deserve. I would like to prod something from another angle, men getting raped. It happens, men get raped by women, especially under aged guys getting raped by a woman, or by another man. Men do get raped too, and it does just as much damage to them mentally as it does women, rape is not gender specific. Like i pointed out in last paragraph, men who go to prison for rape, regardless of if they did it or not, get raped. They get the living daylights beaten out of them, they have to forever register as a sex offender, again, regardless of if they did it or not. The catholic priest touching little boy joke didn't come from no where, in fact there is some truth to that. It's not specific to priests either, it happens in a lot of places. When men get raped by women, they are told they are strange/gay and that they should have liked it. Whats that? That never happens? The recent case of molly Shattuck says other wise. In fact this proves my point, that women are favored when it comes to legal issues, because she is only spending 48 weekends in jail for this disgusting act. No, not weeks, weekends. If we were to flip this situation around, and a guy were to preform an illegal sex act on a girl like this, then he would be serving way more time in prison. Which brings me to the point that, women get easier sentences and men will always receive a harsher punishment for the same crime. Another thing i would like to discuss would be false rape accusations. They happen, a lot. I personally know a few different guys who got in trouble off of a simple accusation and were, in fact, held guilty until proven innocent. This is becoming a huge issue, it completely screws them over, for a long time. First, they go through their sentence in jail or prison, with people thinking they actually did it, so naturally, they get treated like someone who did it. Again, look up or watch a documentary or ask someone who has seen it, you will find all you need to know and more. Then, they have to get out of jail and everyone around them thinks that about them, plus they have to be registered. All because some girl got a little pissed off and wanted something awful to happen to him, or whatever their reason was. It ruins lives, and it is overlooked, a lot. Go ahead and tell me that there is a good reason for it to happen, because there is no logical reason for a man who did not commit rape to go to jail for rape. I enjoyed your arguments, and hope to see another, good luck next round.

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