So I bring you a series of facts to prove you that...
THBT feminism has failed
"Thank you for your point. Researchers found that women with a degree born in 1958 earned nearly three times as much as women in unskilled jobs born in the same year - compared to a difference of less than half between men in the same groups. We see that it is unfair for women because they have to work twice as hard as men to achieve a professional status in the society. We believe that we should reap according to what we have sown and it should be the same for everyone, no matter who they are. Some may say that we are too idealistic, but we hope to improve the problem, no matter how little a step we take." If we put this to your original statement, you have said that feminism has failed because women with a degree born in 1958 earned nearly three times as much as women in unskilled jobs in the same year - compared to a difference of less than half between men in the same groups. This is interesting because you did say you hope to improve the problem, no matter how little a step we take. So I believe the floor would agree that if I find an example of how this has been improved upon, no matter how little it is, or how this is actually an improvement, no matter the scale at how the situation before was worse, then I have won this round. So I bring you a series of facts to prove you that feminism hasn't failed, according to what you said. http://www.bbc.co.uk... - Please take time to read this article. "The mid-point salary of graduates aged 22 to 64 was "29,900, compared with "17,800 for non-degree holders, the Office for National Statistics found." You stated that women people born in 1958 earn three times more than women without a degree. Well over time, this figure is now 1.6. Here is an improvement, helped by the ideology that women are equal to men, which started with first-wave feminism, also known as the Suffragette Movement. This is an improvement, so feminism hasn't failed. Also, the percentage of women in a non-agricultural field of work is 44% in Europe and 48% in the United States, according to the World Bank(citation below). As you can see, I don't need to extend my point on how this is an improvement to your second point. This is fairly similar in the western world at least, and back to what I said in round one, you didn't specify a region or specify much, so in the world, this is still an improvement. You may think it is small, but you stated yourself you hope to improve the issue, no matter how little the step. So again, it isn't a failure. Finally, in case the floor still is skeptic, I should find an example of how what you said was still an improvement on before, and I will take you back to Sweden, in 1947, where only here were women allowed to have an equal salary. Unfortunately, you didn't specify, so in the whole scheme of things in the world, the fact that women had the chance to try to work was an improvement. Various countries only started opening universities which allowed women not too long before 1958, so the fact that women could get a degree is a success. For a list of successes for women's rights, view this article: http://goo.gl... (The article link wouldn't work) Everything here is a success, there isn't more at all I need to say, other than you weren't specific enough and said yourself that every little win is a success, and with successes of such a high magnitude, feminism has not failed. Read my sources as well. http://goo.gl... http://datatopics.worldbank.org... http://datatopics.worldbank.org... http://www.bbc.co.uk... http://www.ilo.org...