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the rights of the infant of the womb, should sometimes trump the rights of the mother

Rebuttals: "con says i value the rights of the fetus above the rights of the mother. this is not true. i sometimes do, as is clearly stated in the thesis of the debate." -This is not true, I've said nothing of the kind. I was merely addressing the resolution at hand: "The rights of the infant of the womb should sometimes trump the rights of the mother." -Pro has conceded that in sometimes she does value the rights of the fetus above the rights of the mother. "con says my analogy isn't sufficient. he says the victim in the accident would immediately want separated in my anaolgy. not always, though. if for some reason the victim could not be separated, for a number of months, any reasonable person would say the person that caused the accident must permit that. no one would say the pesron that caused the accident can kill the person she caused to be attached to her." -This is still a poor analogy. -Using this exact same analogy, I'll use a real life example. Recently while hiking in the mountains, I passed a tree and -Furthermore, Pro is assuming that the victim is conscious and can make decisions on whether or not it wants to live. If this analogy were to happen to a human, the victim would certainly not want to get killed, because the victim loves his life and doesn't want it to end and can think properly and make decisions. A fetus in a womb cannot make decisions (likely because its brain is not fully developed) and has not experienced life, therefore it can't decide whether it wants to live or die. It doesn't know if living is good or dying is good. "con points out rape etc. i could see making an exception for that maybe." -Pro has conceded to my contention. "i'm arguing about later abortions," -No you aren't. Your resolution has little to do with abortions. Your resolution concerns with the rights of a fetus and a woman. -You're resolution is: "the rights of the infant of the womb, should sometimes trump the rights of the mother" -And I am arguing that all humans have the same rights. We don't even have to be talking about abortions right now. We are talking about rights. That is the topic. Addendum: -I believe to continue on with the debate, we must establish what the rights of a fetus is in the first place compared with the rights of a woman. -But to determine the rights of a fetus, we must establish whether or not a fetus should be considered human. -The woman, is certainly considered human, therefore no matter what, she at least has the 30 basic Human Rights. [1] -I leave it to you to prove whether or not a fetus should be considered human in this debate. If you don't, then you concede that the fetus has less rights than the woman. If you do, then it will be established that the fetus is a human, but according to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights [2], all humans have equal rights, therefore as a human, the fetus' rights do not trump the woman's rights. -Your burden of proof is to disprove the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Sources: [1] http://www.samaritanmag.com...; [2] http://www.un.org...