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    I went to the Oakland museum of art recently and i saw...

    Modern art.

    I see the point you are making over and over again: beauty is subjective. Ok, But I have put out multiple claims which you reject to acknowledge. Such as the the entire reason that art is created: to express beauty. Not to make a crude statement. Or that the inspiring, Uplifting, And motivational have been replaced by the pointless, Arbitrary, And purely offensive. I went to the Oakland museum of art recently and i saw this clay object (at best it looked like a warped clay pot) I was trying to understand how it even got in there since I created something similar when I was four with a hunk of craft clay. Then I saw a video of the person making it. It looked like it took a lot of effort. But you know what other pieces of art that took even more effort? Greek Urns. These magnificent pieces of art have been kept through the centuries as wonders of greek imagination. What I saw in the museum of modern art was a warped, Twisted, And mangled version of that beauty. Very fitting. You reject bad music because it is bad music. Simplicity has nothing to do with it. A simple way of putting it is as if a very bad skater fell down on the ice and got a low score. Whats happening with modern art is if that same skater demanded that their performance scored as high as the most disciplined skater. Eventually it would get to the point where training would be pointless and judging would be pointless. Everyone finds the golden ratio beautiful in some way. Studies have shown that even human faces follow the golden ratio. The $10 million hunk of stone I referred to was the piece of modern art that was just a rock. Not the David. I actually find the David to be a marvelous work of art. That would be considered as a fine example of modern art. The paintings message is non-existent but people appreciate it because its semi-realistic. I already gave you an example of what I meant by trashy. Take it or leave it. My final point is that artists have recently been lazy. They scribble on a canvas and expect the viewer to interpret it. An example of this it Robert Rauschenberg's blank white painting sold for millions. I could do the same thing in a few minutes. There is no color, Style, Or effort. He expects you to fill in that big blank gap that the painting left in your mind. Pleasure debating with you.

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