But both are not equal victims; just because both males...
Feminism is not needed in America anymore and is corrupting some minds.
[1] Pro: "They may be a victim of sexism but so are men." But both are not equal victims; just because both males and females are harmed by the system does *not* mean both are equally harmed. [2.1] Many different people have used many different equations to determine the wage gap. Some find it to be 77 some find it to be 82 some find it to be 91 so that may show that the whole wage gap is misleading. (A) The different numbers come from (i) changes in time and (ii) regression of variables that reduce women's wages. They aren't misleading; they're fundamentally different numbers. One is the raw difference; another accounts for certain differences between men and women. The crucial bit, though, is that most of the "differences" between men and women are culture-based and thus unnecessary bias, of the kind feminism fights. (B) Regardless of what occurs, the wage gap *exists*. [2.2] Also, women fresh out of college no family actually make more than men. So the "wage gap" is actually effecting men. (A) Do they? Because the AAUW study found that "[w]omen working full time earned $35,296 on average, while men working full time earned $42,918[.]". [2.3] Also, I do not have a reliable source for this but I heard that they do not determine the "wage gap" on the actual jobs but the job fields. If this is true then the wage gap is not creditable. (A) Sorry, what do you mean? [2.4] And when you say how the mom is the one who takes care of the kid. No one makes her take care of the child after she has given birth. (A) ... Except societal norms. Women are effectively forced by society into taking care of their children, through their education, through their peers, and through their reduced earning potential. [2.5] God made women the ones who give birth and we can not change that but no one is making the women the ones who care for children. (A) Is-ought fallacy. Just because women do/did most parenting duties, does not mean they ought to. [2.6] Adoption or ask the father. (A) Is adoption really reasonable, when all you're asking for is equal time spent parenting? (B) Women *do* ask. Yet fathers disproportionately fail to do so. [3.1] Rape culture does not exist. (A) Oh? [6][7] [3.2] Yes more women are raped then men but that does not change the fact the men are raped too. (A) Again: Disfortune does not imply equal disfortune. [3.3] The fact is that both genders are raped and its horrible I don't see how the statics of male compared to female rape victims matters. (A) It shows that males still exercise disproportionate power over female. In a truly equal society, we'd see near-equal rates of rape for males and females, as disgusting as that sounds. [3.4] Also, yes they may have set up rape centers but they base these centers on women not as much men. (A) tfw feminists led to the definitional change in 2010 wherein rape was redefined to include men [8] (B) Maybe more women need help after rape *because more women are raped*? [4] Response to 4) I'm not saying men are 60% more skilled i'm saying the men that are in the government are just more skilled at the moment than the women who are challenging them. What I mean by this is that pick the more skilled person. Yes women are 50% of the population but does that mean we should hire women just because they are women. No, we should hire based on skill. If a man has more skill for a job that is male dominated then why not hire the man? If a women has a better skill level for a job that is female dominated hire the female. Don't hire based on gender or race but on skill. (A) The problem is that the disparity is so large. Why are women only 20% of governence? You must offer evidence that women are (and have been) disproportionately less skilled than men at governing / running for office / etc. [6] http://thehumanist.com... [7] http://rationalwiki.org... [8] http://www.huffingtonpost.com...