Organizations independent of the law also take...
If a person wants to live in a good world, he should ACTIVELY do things to make the world better.
Dovewing5, with no offense directed toward you, this is where I answer that question. My claim at the beginning of this debate was: If a person wants to live in a good world, he should ACTIVELY do things to make the world better. Dovewing5 exlaimed: "In my opinion, this implies that anyone who does not do this is not deserving of a kind, just world to call home." Inference: Is this what Juan_Pablo means? My answer is brazen and honest: Yes! That's exactly what I mean. If a person does not ACTIVELY do things to make the world better, he shouldn't expect to live in a good world. This statement is very logical and answers itself. People that don't go out of their way to make the world better, to push for fairness, justice, universal healthcare and education, people that don't contribute to acts of charity, who aren't neighborly and compassionate, who don't promote peace and concern for the Earth SHOULD NOT expect to live in a kind, fair, generous world! Their actions and attitudes are promoting a world that cannot establish these things, that cannot possibly make them universal, either in their own regions or abroad. And in a very real sense, they don't deserve a kind, just world to call home. What are they doing to establish such a world? Now, I'm not saying that such people should be punished for such behavior and attitudes (not unless they break the law, which is one device society can use to attempt to rectify an offender), but these people aren't making the world a better experience for everyone, so they shouldn't expect a better world in return! As I expressed in ROUND 1, Creating a great world . . . requires serious effort. It requires effort. Those that aren't willing to put in that effort simply shouldn't expect it, and when some great injustice happens to them, they need to ask themselves "how did this happen?" Even others who do try to establish such a world, and who suffer injustice, do so because there are individuals who aren't trying to make the world better. This demonstrates the universal extent of this problem. Now, there are people who are trying to make the world a better place for everyone who lives on it, and there are several devices that such people and the community already use to maintain peace and order. Chiefly, civil, state, and federal law come to mind - as does law enforcement - to deal with individuals that break public laws. Prisons and other rehabilitative methods are used to rehabilitate inmates or seperate them from the community. It's harsh, but it shows you that society already recognizes the problem that certain behavior and attitudes inflict on the public tranquility and well-being of civic life. Organizations independent of the law also take retributive actions on those that break rules of fairness and order, because it can lead to increased public depravity: athletes that take performance-enhancing drugs are punished because it rewards cheating, as are university students who cheat on exams, etc. As you state, there is a level of ingrained behavior in all of us that [now I'm adding] we have to control. Things like marriage infidelity, lying, promiscuity, illegal drug use - even something as simple as speeding in traffic - all have to be clamped down because they have an adverse effect on public mores and public health. Again, each of us has to put in a serious effort. A good world isn't automatic (though, strangely, some people seem to believe it is). So if a person does not make the world kind, just with actions, should he not expect to live in a kind, just world? The answer is obvious: No! He doesn't deserve to live a kind, just world to call home because he isn't estabishing such a world with his actions.