• CON

    I kinda get what you mean, but I need some more...

    Universal Truth/Morality

    Good argument, but let me clarify what I mean by truth. Of course anyone could pick up a pen and say, "This is a pen," and it would be true without a doubt. But I don't mean truth in that literal sense. I mean philosophical truth. For example, I am debating whether things like morality are constant throughout the world. I don't think they are. I think you might be taking the topic too literally. But, still, you make a very good point. In this debate I will use logic and reason to prove my stance and you must do the same. This way we can still debate on something seemingly undebatable. In other words, we have to ignore your 1st point and try to use evidence to support our sides. Does that make sense? If not, say so in the comment section, and I'll try to explain better. Can you please elaborate on your second point? I kinda get what you mean, but I need some more explanation. Now, your third point about typing. Again, when I say truth, I'm referring to philosophical truth and morality. I'm sorry if I was not clear or specific enough. You bring up some very good points, especially about our approach to truth. But I think that becuase our approach is flawed, that that in itself makes truth/morality subjective. Because I am a firm believer in the concept of "perception is reality." For example, my grandma is crazy religious. And she is always praying. I was in a car accident not too long ago, and I made it without any serious injuries. She truly believed that it was her prayers that saved me. That is her reality and nothing can change that. But for me, I think that I was just lucky. This is a great example of subjective truth; no one can know what really happened, so both of our theories are true. My grandma's theory is true for her, as mine is true for me. This is still keeping to the law of contradiction because in my mind, there is only one theory that is true and the same goes for my grandma. Wow, this is getting complicated. Again, if you need clarification just ask. Let me quickly mention morality. Morality, just like truth, is also relative. What is the moral norm in one culture is not true in another. Some cultures (for example, Sparta) train their children to kill ruthlessly. When they grow up, murder and death are second nature to them. Violence is embedded in their minds. This was not the case in somewhere like Athens, where humanism reigned superior. These two city-states show how customs can change our moral perspective, making it relative.