• CON

    Unlike what my opponent seems to think, I am not trying...

    Civil Unions should be legal in the United States

    "Unlike what my opponent seems to think, I am not trying to stay safe, but stay American" Oh my, classic. "Stay American". ARE YOU SERIOUS!? Have you given up at this point of the debate or what? He tries to illustrate this type of double bind Americans are in because of the different laws we have. This horrible terrible double bind; and he is the one that can see through the fog. Oh yes, he has the answer to the problem. The problem? Im sorry sir, but you have shot yourself in the foot on this speech. The mere fact your mindset carries the thought that this is a "problem that needs to be solved" (that civil unions solve) destroys your entire case. You think that what is going on with the gay people in status-quo America is a problem, and isnt already solved by basic human ethics. We shouldnt even be having this debate, what we should be doing is molding our mindsets to accepting gays everywhere, to do anything, including be married. The only time gays will ever be equal is when we fully accept them, and that is NOT going to happen by a civil union. You still hold them on a level lower than you. "Im straight, i can be married. Hes gay, I want to appease him, but he cant be AS EQUAL as me". Your mindset destroys itself, and im sorry, but you lose. Turn his entire justice onto gays case onto him, hes the one putting them lower, hes the one that even started this debate. We should see gays as equal, we should not be debating on whether or not they should be married. You say separation of church and state. fail. Do you understand what you are doing? You believe there are two separate groups out there and you are trying to appease both. The two groups will hate each other horribly. We cant try and fix the current system in which the two groups hate each other, we have to mold everyones minds to believe that gays are equal. However, this is impossible. So let the two groups fight over the morality. Right now the government is sitting on the side of the oppressor, and will be until they recognize gay marriage. The standards you set in your first speech allowed us to just look at the philosophy behind the ideas. Allowed us to toy with what gays can, and cant do. We should not be having this debate, gays can do whatever they want because of the arguments you yourself made in your first speech.

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